“You’re Doing It Wrong” is another new series (every other Saturday) where I take common deals and show you how to do it better!
It is shocking to me the number of people who use terrible websites for searching for cash flights (this post is not about miles/points flights). Friends will send me a paid flight and ask if I can find one cheaper, and I can almost always find a better flight price instantly!
The most shocking to me is people who only use a specific airline’s website (you’d be surprised how often that happens). But you’d also be surprised how someone using Expedia misses out on certain airline options and misses out on the best deals.
I’ll show you why you shouldn’t use Expedia or similar sites, the sites that are great for finding cheaper fares, and why I book on a different site than I search.
Summary:
- Finding better airlines, fares, and sites.
- Know if there are cheaper days, automatically.
- Know what airports are the best combination.
- Other tools for finding the cheapest flight ideas (for the flexible).
At the end, I’ll give a summary and a list of tools I use.
Finding The Right Dates
I know not everyone is flexible, but let me get the obvious out of the way.
If you’re manually searching each date combination that you’re available, you’re doing it wrong!
This is a setting, in Kayak.
Even if you are using Expedia, it is also a setting.
Here’s an example:
I’m searching for AUS to WAS April 10 to 15, and the cheapest flight is $222.
But if I simply click “Show flexible dates”, I see cheaper fares with one day difference!
Now I see $154 for returning a day later, or $170 if I move the entire trip back a day (but it still would be the same number of nights).
But I prefer to do this on Kayak, or one of the other deal sites I’ll mention in a bit…
Find Better Airlines, Fares, and Sites
I’m about to talk about why I love Kayak for a little bit (and then the other sites I use).
The advantage of Kayak is obvious, it searches more airlines, more fares, and more booking sites.
You’d definitely be doing it wrong if you went direct to AA.com or United.com to search for your flight (when you’re not using miles), and bought a ticket without knowing if another airline has the same flight for cheaper. That would be insane right? Even if you had status, you’d want to know if a competitor had the same flight for a fraction of the price.
Similarly, why only search on Expedia, which only shows fares bookable on Expedia? It also only shows certain airlines.
This is true for Expedia, Priceline, Orbitz, etc… If you are using any of these, you’re doing it wrong.
Fare Example
Out of curiosity, I took the same dates and plugged them into Kayak. I was expecting to see a different airline or maybe Kayak would find a different cheaper booking site. But no, something much simpler.
Kayak found the same flight for $210, instead of $222 (not a huge savings, but it’s an example, and it could easily be more).
What happened here is that Frontier has a $59 oneway, and combining the two airlines with two different oneways instead of a roundtrip, saved money.
International Example
For a oneway from Austin to Bali on Sept 11:
On Expedia, the flight is $555.
And the same flight on Kayak is $433.
Find Better Airlines
Here’s the big reason to use Kayak over Expedia (as examples)…
Expedia searches fewer airlines because they only show airlines that pay them for bookings, and therefore they will only show you flights you can book on Expedia.
Here’s a great example, Austin to Lyon, France on Sept 5:
Expedia found a flight for $547.
Kayak found a flight for $309.
The reason here is that Expedia doesn’t yet search Norwegian Airlines.
(BTW, we recently flew the Norwegian Austin to LGW route, and I thought it was fine, direct, and they allow our giant carry on).
Kayak isn’t even the best at this, I’m just trying to show why it’s better than Expedia.
Finding Better Airports
There are lots of tools to do this.
First, let me start with the “duh”, and explain any site likely lets you search the nearby airports with a simple change in the airport code.
See, you’re doing it wrong if instead of searching all New York airports, you only search “JFK” or “LGA” or “EWR”, either only one or one at a time.
Instead, you can type in “NYC” to search all the airports, or as you can see below, just type in the city name and click on the “all airports” option.
The less obvious option is to search for other airports and drive or bus, or whatever.
On SkySkanner.com you can search Austin not just to a city, but to a country, like France.
Finding flights to the cheapest airport:
You can also leave it blank or type in “Everywhere” to see options for Austin to everywhere.
I did this and scrolled around to see if there were any places near Lyon, or we were also going to Switzerland.
I was totally fine flying into a different airport in Europe if I was actually interested, or if I could easily take another connecting flight or train, or get my rental car from the other airport instead.
When I went, I found I saved a bit of money by flying into Paris. I hadn’t been in years and figured I’d give the city another shot, stay at the InterContinental Le Grande, and then train down (for $15) the next day to Lyon.
There are also a lot of other cities in Europe I’d be interested in visiting, for example, I’ve never been to Copenhagen. So if I could’ve stayed there and taken a discount airline down for super cheap, I would have preferred that.
Often I find that people move around in Europe and a typical roundtrip actually makes less sense for them. Thus, searching destinations as a oneway and then looking at dates can help you find the cheapest combination.
You may find it’s cheap to fly into Rome and out of Venice, and you were going to go to both cities anyway.
Another tool that people like is Google Flights.
If you click “Explore Destinations” you get to a screen that allows you to see all destinations on the globe, filtering under a certain price, and for any date or a month. Below you can see I’m searching for flights from Austin to everywhere, under $350, and in September.
The problem with Google Flights and SkyScanner is they aren’t pulling in live data. In other words, you may click through and find a price has changed.
When you’re searching a large number of dates and cities, you likely are not getting live data. These are tools to get ideas of where to go or arrange your trip.
Just click through, or use Kayak to search for a +/- 3 days, and you’ll get accurate prices (if it searches the same airline).
Searching All The Variations At Once
The main thing I like about Google Flights is that it doesn’t just show airport variation on the search results, it allows you to search multiple airports to anywhere.
SkyScanner will allow you to search all flights from the “United States” to “France”, but it won’t allow me to pick the major cities in Texas, for example.
Below, you can see I added Austin, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio.
When I lived in Charlottesville, Virginia, I found I was willing to go to Richmond, DC, Baltimore, or Raleigh. This is perfect for that.
And I was also able to search those 4 cities to “France” (just like SkyScanner), either for a specific date or all of a month like September.
Finding The Cheapest Booking Site
I hate to add another tool when Kayak is supposed to do this for you, but people love momondo.com, so I thought it may be worth mentioning.
When I checked Momondo, it found the exact same Austin to Lyon flight on Sept 5th for $299 (when so far the cheapest above was $309).
It just found a cheaper website by booking on EasyJet (which was the connecting flight). Although, sometimes you have to be careful on the European discount airlines because they show up first/cheapest in the search results, but when you actually go to book they just itemize mandatory fees, adding them later.
Sometimes it finds flights on websites I’ve never heard of and I try to find a rating, or if the price is near the same I try to book on Expedia (as they have free cancelation within 24 hours).
SkipLagged
People always mention Skiplagged, because it is indeed a great concept. But in execution… well, it’s never shown me a cheaper flight and it always shows a more expensive flight.
For example, we recently flew Austin to Mexico City, and direct flights on AeroMexico were $260. I used SkyScanner for Austin to Mexico City and found a flight to Cancun via Mexico City (also on AeroMexico) was $130. Same exact flight was half priced if I booked a flight that continued to Cancun.
This is exactly what SkipLagged was designed to do, and when I searched it, it never showed any of the cheapest options to Cancun or other places.
I think the website is a great concept, but it hasn’t worked for me at all, and I got the same benefit by searching the country of Mexico on SkyScanner.
Summary and List Of Tools
Summary
1) I use sites that search other sites and are not booking sites themselves. They are not incentivized to show you flights that don’t pay them or show you different fares.
2) I also like to make sure I’m checking all the right airports and dates.
List Of Sites I Search
- Kayak – to live search 7 days at a time, and find alternative websites to book on.
- Hipmunk.com – also great for showing flights and websites for booking.
- SkyScanner – to get ideas on flight prices to/from a city, country, or “everywhere” on specific dates, any date, or an entire month.
- Google Flights – to get ideas on flight prices to/from a city, specific cities, country, or “everywhere” on specific dates, any date, or an entire month.
The Big Take Away
Search for “ideas” on SkyScanner or Google Flights.
Then search for your actual flights on Kayak (or momondo.com).
Then, if Kayak shows the flights are the same on a site like Expedia, I tend to use that for booking. Expedia allows free cancelation within 24 hours, and often booking directly on the website doesn’t. So why book on an airline website that doesn’t offer free cancelation within 24 hours when you can get that perk on Expedia?
And that is how I search for flights.
You think Expedia doesn’t show enough options? Try booking thru “Expedia light”…this is the version you have to use going thru Ultimate Rewards portal to use ur pts.
I can pull up zero options for a car rental in Morocco trying to use ur pts, but in regular Expedia it shows a bunch.
Yeah, it’s an improvement for Chase, but still not perfect. I also haven’t tried international car rentals on there. I imagine it’s better for flights than car rentals.
Plus, always check to see if you can go through a portal — you can get a few percent back.
Really good point!
Wow, this is basically the same sites and process I go thru- with exception of using ITAmatrix as well. I guess it’s rolled into google flights but I started using that before google flights, more familiar with the setup. Super helpful article!
Matrix is the backbone of Google Flights, but there’s lots of things you can do with matrix that you can’t do with GF – and as Drew mentions, gf is cached while Matrix gives you real time results.
I actually wrote up a section on ITA Matrix and deleted it because I tested it against Kayak and the prices were 2x – 4x higher on my Europe example. Nothing under $1200. But it may have timed out.
I think it’s great for mileagerunners and those with experience, because it’s good for the legacy airlines.
FYI your Austin to Bali example is a little confusing – it sounds from your description like both sites found the same flight, but they’re different airlines and a very different routing.
Hmm… Yeah, that was my point, is that it searches more airlines, but I guess I didn’t articulate it well.
Drew–do you use hopper or other flight fare forecasting rules?
Personally, no. I often don’t book flights in advance and I always book rates I think are great (most I’ve ever paid for a ticket is $440 for a business class roundtrip from DC to Beijing).
I also haven’t been impressed with other forecasting tools, but I’ve never used Hopper. I could totally see how it would be useful if you’re booking a legacy airline many months out though.
This is so very helpful! I’ve been using Google Flights almost solely because it’s really easy and helpful for future planning, but I did not realize that it wasn’t real time. I’ll go back to including Kayak. I didn’t fully adopt Skyscanner, but will start using that too.
I’d prefer not booking on Expedia. I don’t trust them if an error is made or some weird InterOps. Especially multi airline itinerary. Airline may punt you to Expedia customer service.
Hopper is really good. Also you can use the Watch function as a sale alert when you are further out from trip.