Now that ANA has their new site up and running and new information about their new rewards program and award pricing, I’ve spent some time messing around with online award bookings.
Finally, here is a post about some of the results. We’ll talk about the new award chart, some sweet spots, which airlines have fuel surcharges, online bookings, and stopovers. The most interesting part might be that they still kind of have their old distance based award chart (stick around until the end).
I think most people will still consider it a devaluation, and most of it is, but there are a few big improvements. And there are still a few unknowns or things I couldn’t get to work. But this post is a good overview of the new program and the good parts about it.
Oddly enough, I wrote about the program change in the fall and the award chart they used during the announcement is now nowhere to be found. It seems that they had a devaluation months before bookings were allowed. I wasn’t too sure what to make of it until being able to test it. Which is to say that a lot of the things I wrote about earlier has changed.
Earning ANA Miles
Fyi, ANA Miles transfer 1:1 from American Express Membership Rewards points and SPG. That means the following Amex cards can earn ANA Miles:
- Both Amex EveryDay Credit Cards
- Green Card
- both Gold Cards
- Platinum Card
- SPG card
The New ANA Miles Award Chart
Like I often do with foreign award charts (or missing award charts) I made one of my own that’s North America centric. It’s just easier for me to read this way.
One thing to note is that Japan 1-A is the cheaper price to Japan with connections only in Japan and only 1 connection.
Not too sure where to put this, but wanted to share some important links.
Links:
Sweet spots on ANA’s award chart
While there are many devaluations, there are a lot of great things about this award chart. I’ll go over some hot spots in the award chart and then go over fuel surcharges after.
Cheap business class to Europe
Roundtrips to Europe are now 55,000 miles for economy and 88,000 miles for business class. While this isn’t an improvement, it’s an example that things across the board are competitive.
But like FlyingBlue, ANA considers some non-European countries in the Europe region. This is a unique opportunity. According to ANA, Europe includes: Algeria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Morocco, Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands, and Tunisia.
Cheapest Flights To Africa and Middle East
By far, the new ANA award chart has the cheapest miles price to “Africa”, for 65k/104k, which includes the entirety of Africa and Middle East that isn’t included in Europe. So everything except Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. Africa still includes Egypt all the way to South Africa, and includes Mauritius, Madagascar, and Seychelles.
Seriously 65,000 miles is the cheapest roundtrip economy flight to Africa/Middle East, and 104,000 miles is the cheapest business class price for this.
Read more: Cheapest miles to India and the Middle East
Cheapest flights to Japan and Asia
ANA has, again, the cheapest [year round] miles to for trips to Japan. Economy flights are 50k to 55k for a roundtrip to/from Japan, Business class flights are 85k to 90k for Japan.
And flights to the rest of east Asia aren’t that much more expensive. 60k to 70k for economy flights for a roundtrip, and 95k to 115k in business class.
Another plus, is that Asia 2 isn’t just Southeast Asia. India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Maldives, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan,Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan are all considered “Asia 2”.
Fuel Surcharges Using ANA Miles
I tested international flights from one hub in the US to a hub in that airline’s region. Or for the US Airlines flgihts I tested international flights. If you wanted to transit to another place you might add on extra costs.
Here’s the chart of fuel surcharges on Star Alliance partners:
| Airline | YQ in $USD |
| ANA | 178 |
| Air Canada | 0 |
| Air China | 0 |
| Air India | 540 |
| Air New Zealand | 0 |
| Asiana | 162 |
| Austrian | 516 |
| Avianca | 0 |
| Brussels | 516 |
| Copa | 0 |
| EgyptAir | 305 |
| Ethiopian | 230* |
| EvaAir | 300? |
| LOT | 81 |
| Lufthansa | 516 |
| Scandanavian | 496 |
| Singapore | 440+ |
| South African | 390 |
| Swiss | 516 |
| TAP | 266 |
| Thai | 323 |
| Turkish | 264 |
| United | 0 |
| United (to Asia) | 172 |
Notes:
- *to fly from North America to ADD on Ehtiopian, you have to transit via Europe each way, which will add quite a bit. Fees came out to $445 for a roundtrip from Toronto to Ethiopia.
- Somehow EVA flights from the US end up having charges around $380… which doesn’t make any sense as the YQ is $100 and the airport taxes and immigration taxes end up being less than $80. How are they charging well over double?
- Singapore and Thai have to transit through somewhere like Tokyo or Seoul to get the US adding on an extra little airport tax. So while it’s not technically an airport tax, like Ethiopian, you end up paying more than the YQ listed.
- Somehow LOT always passes on a small portion of its fuel surcharges. Normally it passes on $390+ on Transatlantic flights, but here they only charge $81.
As usual, flights to avoid fuel surcharges always involve flights within South America. But what’s really great is that Air Canada (which goes to Europe and Asia) has no fuel surcharges, as well as United flights everywhere except Asia. Air New Zealand remains a great option to avoid fuel surcharges, and LOT is a relatively good way to get to and from Europe. I’d rather fly United or Air Canada to avoid fuel surcharges completely, but you do what you can.
Remember that connections add costs. Airport taxes in Europe can easily add $100 with a couple of connections. And as noted, Thai and Singapore flights tend to layover in NRT or ICN. However, you can always connect there on an Asiana or ANA flight to go somewhere else, in case your end destination isn’t Singapore but you wanted to fly them across the Pacific.
Non Star Alliance Partners
What’s really cool is that ANA also partners with Etihad, Garuda, Hawaiian, Jet Airways, TAM, and Virgin Atlantic.
Actually, this is amazing given that Etihad has zero fuel surcharges to pass on, and the prices to Africa and the Middle East are super cheap.
Hawaiian also doesn’t have fuel surcharges to pass on. Hawaiian Airlines has routes to Japan, Seoul, Taipei, Manila, Australia, Auckland, American Samoa, and Tahiti, as well as connections to a lot of mainland USA.
And TAM increases the network within South America, which also has no fuel surcharges.
The problem is this:
In the case of the partner airlines listed below, miles can be used when flying on flights operated by the partner airline only.
Apparently you can’t combine a flight on Etihad with another Star Alliance partner.
Specific Best Uses of ANA Miles
Yes, I’m going to discuss this before stopovers. Because stopovers aren’t really a part of this normal award chart.
Etihad to Africa and Middle East for 65k/104k
Flying to Tanzania for 65,000 miles roundtrip is insane because that’s about what Aeroplan charges for a flight to Europe and this is twice as far away. If your goal is to get to Africa or the Middle East, this can save some miles. And 104,000 miles for business class is as cheap as you can get for the destination. And the best part is that Etihad doesn’t have fuel surcharges to pass on.
Etihad isn’t a part of Star Alliance, so it seems that you can’t combine it with other airlines, and you can’t book it online. This would involve phoning in ANA.
Air Canada & Air China to Asia: Economy or Business Class
ANA just isn’t charging fuel surcharges on Air Canada or Air China. According to OMAT, Air China’s Business Class hard product is “phenomenal” and he says that Air China is one of the most generous airlines in Star Alliance in terms of releasing premium cabin award space.
Simply put, the prices to Asia are phenomenal. 50,000 miles for economy and 85,000 miles for a roundtrip is great. And 60k/95k for Northern Asia. But remember, “Asia 2” includes the “stans” and India, as well as the rest of Southeast Asia. 70k for a trip to India is super cheap, and 115k for business class is way cheaper than most.
So try Air China Business Class to China for 95k, or to India for 115k.
Again, many of these spots on the chart are good prices, and are very competitive. But the regions are big, which has pros and cons. “Latin America” is an absurd region for us. 50k for a roundtrip to the Caribbean is absurd for an economy flight. But to Chile and Argentina… it’s actually a good price.
In our favor, the Africa and Middle East prices are amazing. It includes so much of the world and for only 65k.
And there are few places in Africa and the Middle East that are considered Europe, as mentioned earlier. This brings the price down to 55k on a roundtrip to a place like Morocco.
Stopovers and the “Round The World” Award Chart
For a second I thought that stopovers were made worse and completely taken away. Messing around online I couldn’t get any stopovers to work except when starting from Japan. That seems to be the new rule, 1 stopover allowed on a roundtrip that originates in Japan. Super lame, as we never fly roundtrip to/from Japan.
“One stopover, other than your destination, may be made on flights departing from Japan and overseas for either the outbound or inbound trip. Up to two transfers may be made on the outbound and inbound trips each in Japan. Up to two transfers may also be made on outbound and inbound trips each other than Japan.”
But…
Much to my surprise, when I read the “round the world” part, which allows 8 stopovers, it included an award chart I recognized from somewhere else.
The ANA Round The World Award Chart:
Wait a second…
That’s the old award chart! ANA indeed just switched from distance based to region based (to the award chart I shared above)… but apparently they kept the exact same awesome award chart that they hard earlier. They just added some rules.
For round-the-world itineraries only, the required number of miles is calculated based on the total itinerary distance (basic sector mileage total). You can make up to eight stopovers when using airplanes to cross the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans one time each until you return to your country of departure (however, only up to three stopovers can be made in Europe and four stopovers can be made in Japan). You must choose either an eastbound or westbound route, and cannot travel in the opposite direction. The final international flight to return to your country of departure must be boarded on or after the 10th day after boarding the first international flight
What? This is the same award chart except you can only travel east or west! You have to cross both the Pacific and Atlantic.
Alright ANA… you win. I’ll fly around the world if I have to… with up to 8 stopovers.
Let me just price something out here that’s super basic.
New York, to Paris, to Hong Kong, to New York
A simple trip with only 2 stops. This would cross both oceans and I could fly AC/United over to Europe and Air China home. The problem would be getting from Europe to Asia, but I just want to price out the miles part.
The total distance flown on this route is 17,676 flown miles, which means the ANA miles price would be 65k/105k/160k.
That’s 65,000 miles for the round the world trip in economy up to 160,000 miles for first class. And…
We still have 6 stops left!
Going out of your way will increase the price a little. But the next price point up is only 10k more for economy and 20k more for First and that’s not a lot for a potential 8 destinations.
For me, this is a huge improvement to the award chart. We now get 8 stopovers and can make it price out super cheap. Stop in Africa and the Middle East too. I can’t even imagine how I’d spend 8 stopovers. Of course fuel surcharges and airport taxes will add up. But airport taxes are unavoidable for any place you want to see. But just FYI, I’ve tried to get crazy with ANA and backed out of a ticket because of the huge cash price tag that would have been added on. The fuel surcharges are real, and you need to use my chart above.
I feel like I should be writing an entire post on this…
And then I realized all my ANA posts so far have been on this award chart for the last few years. This is the same award chart. Basically the only difference is that you can only move one direction.
This is not at all bookable online, and even the example they give (same but FRA-SIN) didn’t price out online, it just says that it can’t be booked online.
Conclusion
A lot to cover. New prices, all partner YQ, and “round the world” tickets.
The irony is that on the award chart, short distances were nicely priced. Roundtrips from east coast USA to west coast Europe would be as cheap as 43,000 miles. But now the best awards are to super far away places like Africa and the Middle East, which are 55,000 to 65,000 miles. It’s nothing.
Losing stopovers on the majority of tickets is a downer, but it’s completely made up for with the old award chart that allows 8 stopovers.
What are your thoughts? Can you use the 8 stopovers award chart? Can you use the 65k to Africa? Or are your favorite awards gone?
drew a small geography lesson. Albania has always been part of Europe, and has always been Europe in all of the FF programs that I know of. You might want to update your post.
lol, thanks. Just copied and pasted too much.
Outstanding work, as always. As someone whose main miles accumulation is in Amex Membership Rewards, this post and the FlyingBlue one are extremely useful.
I think this is the cheapest way to get to Armenia (which you left off your list), Georgia, and Azerbaijan, except for AA off-peak, because AA is the only other one that I know of that counts these countries as Europe instead of Middle East.
Glad it’s helpful!
I’m embarrassed to say that I didn’t realize that AA’s award chart considered George and Armenia as Europe. 20k in off-peak is an incredible deal!
Interesting about the lack of YQ on AC. Because they were definitely applying YQ on flights US->YXX->EUR not too long ago.
BTW, I definitely check both a route from YYZ and CLE to Europe and neither showed YQ. So… a lucky find.
The round-the-world section of the ANA website is confusing. Obviously, you can’t do an around the world itinerary that is less than 2,000 miles so what is that part of the chart for (is there still a way to do a distance based award)? Also, the terms and conditions of the round-the-world flights say “The final international flight to return to your country of departure must be boarded on or after the 10th day after boarding the first international flight.” So around the world, crossing both oceans with 8 stopovers, in 10 days??? What kind of trip is that?
So a few things.
1) That’s a good point… I didn’t think about a 2,000 mile RTW. Why doesn’t make any sense.
I wonder how strictly they will enforce it. I would spend the time testing it… but didn’t feel like it with Ukrainian internet.
2) that being said, I wonder if a loop hole would be if they allow open-jaws. Start in LAX end in JFK and go down to PTY, that is entirely moving east. I doubt it, but I guess it goes back to how strict they are.
3) And I think the 10 day thing is a minimum, 8 stopovers is a maximum. I’ve seen that other RTW tickets have a minimum of 10 days or more. Basically they want it to be for people going on “round the world” trips and not just for people like Ben who would fly it just for the single destination… because the award chart is that good.
Take another look. The way I read that, it means the trip has to be a minimum of 10 days, not a maximum.
This proves that MR is the best program for me as a middleeastener living in the states. 104k with 0 YQ on Etihad biz is just amazing. I hope it stays the same before I use it.
Best news in the point/miles hubby.
So just as an FYI, Etihad is the only 0 YQ partner to the ME that I can think of off my head… but it’s not a star alliance partner, so I don’t know if booking is harder or not. I haven’t tried.
I just say that to maybe urge calling before transferring. Just like to be cautious.
Assuming booking is as simple as AA… it’s just like AA but better miles price. 😀
Even 264$ + 104k MR for biz on TK a very good redemption IMHO.
I just read through their T&C and thought I’d bring up that they allow open jaws as well. For Open Jaws at your destination, you have to stay in the same country; however, Europe counts as one country. USA & Canada also count as one country.
I can’t tell if an open jaw is allowed at the origin/return, but they do give one example early of a flight Tokyo-Seoul, Seoul-Tokyo-Fukuoka, so you might be able to do this as well.
Note: One thing that is confusing about their T&C page is that they occasionally use “ineligible” to mean “eligible” for the picture examples they show. It seems the color of the header is more important. Blue=Good and Gray=Bad.
Site is very confusing. Sometimes the english is… odd.
But man… this makes me think that I left out a lot of the basic. Will have to go back. I didn’t add that it has to be a roundtrip either. Thanks for the important note.
I assume you can open-jaw on the return but I hadn’t even tried. It should be able to be done online, so I’ll test it in a bit.
One thing I forgot to mention: Great post, as always.
I was reading the T&C again, for fun I guess, and I realize that I got several things wrong.
Open Jaw at destination is allowed, and it doesn’t have to be in the same country, but just the same “area” (third of the globe, basically). And if the prices are different between outbound and inbound, they just take half of each and add them together.
And it looks like you can indeed open jaw at origin/return, and that’s the thing that has to be in the same country.
So… maybe really weird r/ts are possible, like LAX-ZRH, JNS-IAD. Africa and Europe are in the same “Area.”
Not sure if any of this is useful, but ANA fascinates me.
Also, did you try to price out any awards with stopovers? The language “departing from Japan and overseas” might mean that you can use a stopover with a trip originating in Japan OR for a trip originating somewhere overseas.
A Google search turned up this blog post . In the comments, it sounds like the author might have priced out a r/t between LAX and BKK with a stopover in RAR. I’d like to think there’s still hope.
Yes, and that’s the part I meant was oddly worded.
I tried and tried.
The ONLY ticket I got to work was 1 stopover when starting in Japan. Everything would go through the steps and then error out at the end saying that online booking doesn’t support this type of ticket.
Drew, a few things.
First, great finds regarding Africa and RTW goodness. Somehow, it got past me completely.
Second, tickets that involve two or more regions can’t be booked online anymore. It drove me nuts until I found a disclaimer to that effect. So a flight from JFK to HKG via NRT, for example, will error out online, you have to call to book.
Third, here are a few sweet spots I would add:
1. The cheapest low season to Japan in J is 75K, not 85K.
2. TAM to South SA in J for 80K.
3. Asia 1 and 2 is 80K and 100K on ANA metal, which is great, but what’s also interesting is that YQ is ridiculous, $61–much less than what they charge for flights to Japan, even though they are routed through Japan.
Here is my revised ANA post. The only thing that’s changed FWIK is that TAM can’t be booked online now.
Hey Andy,
For whatever reason I love your comments because of your thumbnail, I actually feel like we get to have a conversation. Like oh, it’s my friend Andy I’m talking too…
A) I agree, the new online site is annoying. That alone is a devaluation.
But wow, that explains a lot. So annoying.
1) Thx.
2) Yea, good redemption. Too bad about the stopovers. 😀
3) Wait what?!
How do you know if you can’t do a 2 region online? Did you call it in and confirm?
If so that’s awesome!
B) I don’t think any non *A partner can be booked online.
Hi Drew,
Somehow I find your thumbnail is much cooler than my old mug, but thanks anyway. 🙂
3. No, didn’t call, but if you check my post above, there is an itemized fee/taxes screenshot that I took before the devaluation (when booking online was possible). The mileage levels changed on May 12, but their YQ had changed on April 1. Since they only revise YQ every 3 months, it shouldn’t have changed with the new chart.
That’s odd, the link I included didn’t work. This is the other post I was talking about:
welltraveledmile DOT com/thepointsguru/the-new-ana-partner-award-chart-is-in-effect/
I didn’t read the entire post, but skimmed the basics.
Basically, I don’t mean to be rude because I commend the chap for the effort and we’re all going to miss some details on this complicated Japanese site… but I don’t think any of it is correct.
At least he should try booking and confirm that his Japanese was better than mine. Otherwise, I really don’t think the stopover is allowed.
The wording is confusing and makes it sound like maybe you could stopover if it’s a ticket starting in japan AND international… OR an international ticket.
When I try international it doesn’t work.
When I try international starting in Japan it DOES work.
So I encourage the author to prove me wrong, but certainly give any sort of test to confirm his/her understanding.
The part that could be correct is the region restrictions, except for the fact that the round-the-world ticket does allow you to stopover in Europe and Asia. But in terms of what the computer allows, it seems to align.
Anyways, I don’t think a stopover will work.
I try to search award seats from IAH – SGN but the website keeps saying “error”. I even tried another destination but no luck.
The website is strange. Sometimes it just doesn’t work. For the most part it’s great. But it’s fickle and in Japanese. Not as good as the old tool.
But usually if I error out, I just close the tab and start over. Although it does do that if there’s no availability as well…
Yet another good one. Thanks. I did have a question. If you don’t know or just plain find it too big a pain in the butt to explain, no sweat. Anyway, if you start flying with a non surcharge alliance partner, then switch to a surcharge alliance partner, does that avoid, lessen, or do nothing to surcharges? For a couple of examples: AVL UA X/ORD NH X/NRT NH X/BKK NH X/NRT UA X/ORD UA AVL or RIC UA X/ORD AC X/YVR AC X/NRT NH X/HKG NH X/LAX UA X/ORD UA RIC.
Sure it does lessen it. If you fly to Frankfurt on Air Canada that’s $0 yq. And Frankfurt to Singapore on Singapore Airlines will have a different YQ, like $200+. If you flew SQ the entire time it would by $400++ in YQ.
Oops. Went a little x happy. BKK and HKG would be the destinations.
Hi,
This is a great find for round-the-world travel. Thanks! I’m wondering what exactly they mean by no backtracking in the conditions on ANA. One place I would think to route through with such an award is New Zealand (the South Island is on my bucket list). The trouble is that the partner with the best award space (Air Canada) services Queenstown through Sydney only. If one were to fly back to layover (not stopover) in Sydney only as part of crossing the Pacific to Vancouver, would that still be considered backtracking?
Round the world tickets commonly do this. Basically the rule is that you always need to be moving one direction – east or west.
Right that might be a problem. Who knows how well this is actually enforced though. But in theory you can’t do that… although I’m seriously skeptical of the limiting power of the computer, but haven’t tried it. I would test call it before booking if interested.
Can awards be held temporarily pending transfer in of points? I’d have enough MR points for some useful award possibilities here, but the wording, rules, and methodology are a bit quirky, so that ideally I’d rather be sure I can really get a specific itinerary ticketed before transferring in flexible points.
I don’t remember if it can be held but I always call in these situations just to test out the booking and pricing and fees, especially with ANA. Then transfer.
Great post Drew. How is the adoption going? I just donated money for the cause. Hope everything is going great in Ukrainian.
Thanks so much, I know they appreciate that! Very kind of you.
Everything is going as well as it can go, until monday when we get to take her to Odessa. Then it really begins.
Hi Drew,
Awesome post, as always. I wondering how ANA’s waitlist worked. I was looking to book HNL -> NRT/HND in October using United miles but found everything’s on “Waitlist”. Have you ever gone on their waitlist? Or where can I find more information on how it works? Thanks!
I haven’t looked at it yet, but I plan on doing more ANA posts in the future. The entire translation thing and bad website thing have slowed me down.
No one ways allowed, correct?
Right. Roundtrips only.
Is Etihad first class bookable or only business and coach?
I assume First is there, but Etihad doesn’t show up online, so you’d have to call.
Ok. So roundtrip only. If using Etihad does it have to be all Etihad on one way only or all the way? Thinking about going to Africa and it would be nice to use Etihad on the way out and South African (non stop) on the way back. Anyone know if that is possible?
With the requirement to cross pacific and altantic in the round the world trip does this exclude etihad because you can not combine with other partners?
So if I get a round the world ticket, does going to Australia from japan count as crossing the pacific ocean, leaving me stuck in Australia, or will I still be able to go to SFO from there on the same round the world ticket?
Great post! I can’t believe you did all this work to put it together…you are a research machine!
My main take away here is that this appears to be a great opportunity for those of us living South America! I live in Buenos Aires, and if you rates on the chart are correct, then Singapore grants some of the best rates from flights from South America out to other regions, specifically to Oceania, Japan, and even Europe.
Do you know of anyone that has experience using these miles out of Singapore, or just theoretical at this point?
Also, incurious as to why Air Canana doesn’t have fuel charges. I thought the only time that was true was when flying in the Americas…are you saying them when booking using Singapore miles Air Canada does charge YQs even on say flights to Europe or Asia?
Asia2 to Africa for 50K sounds pretty good.
Just noticed something in ANA’s T & C that should cause you to update this post:
“Flight awards for Hawaiian Airlines flights can only be used only be used for flights within the Hawaiian islands.”
It would also be very good for you to remind people that ANA award flights can only be used by the member or close family members, who must be registered (and they may ask for documentation of the relationship). Uncles and aunts and nieces and nephews are not eligible family members. http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/japan/e/asw_common/amc/reference/tukau/tokuten.html
I just got off the phone trying to book a ticket from LAX-BOM for 115 on Etihad, but the lady says that you need to fly over the pacific for 115. If you fly to AUH then you have to book it as LAX-AUH and AUH-BOM as two tickets. Is this true?
Did you get your answer? How did you fly to BOM after that? I belong to India and take a vacation every year. ANA award chart looks best among all.
Is your idea of flying to Tanzania on Etihad viable? I did some exploring on the Etihad website, and I have some questions.
The only North American airports that have non-codeshare flights to Abu Dhabi, where one would connect to Dar Es Salaam (Tanzania), are Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago, Toronto, and Washington. If you input those as starting places into the Etihad flight search, only LAX will list Dar Es Salaam as a potential destination. My searches there have not brought up any flights that actually go the whole way from LAX to Dar Es Salaam on Etihad though, so that violates the rule that all the flights must be on Etihad.
It’s certainly possible to build a multiple destination itinerary that flies from (for instance) Chicago to Abu Dhabi, and then from Abu Dhabi to Dar Es Salaam with a less than 24 hour layover, and then the same going back to Chicago. All flights on Etihad. Would Etihad allow one to book those with ANA miles?
The open jaw in an ANA award ticket can be a game changer. Especially if you really want a one way.
Don’t forget to originate in Brazil to eliminate YQ.
http://freeinfreedom.com/tag/ana-award-ticket/
Drew,
I’ve been booking a ton of awards using ANA recently and I wanted to let you know that SE Asia (Thailand,Singapore,Malaysia,etc.) prices out at 136,000 instead of 95,000, at least using partner sa awards. The breaking point is Hong Kong, as in HKG prices at 95k while BKK prices at 136k. Just an fyi.
Cheers,
John
is it possible to route USA to PEK to HAV on CA? lololol that’d be awesome….
And just now Brazil introduced YQ charged for flights from Brazil :(((
https://meanie.me/news/yq-fuel-charges-brazil-allowed
If I use the capital one venture card, then will the miles I redeem still be eligible for ANA upgrades? And if so, when I take a flight from Seattle to Tokyo, about how many miles will I need to upgrade from economy to business class?
Are ANA miles on PAL the best way to get to POM (Port Moresby, PNG) from NYC?
Have you booked a partner flight (specifically BR) in the past 6 months? I’m looking to book a simple BR itinerary LAX-TPE RT and the space shows available on the site. However, after selecting the flights and clicking next, it returns an error saying the class is not available.. The same space shows available on UA and AP sites. I’ve tested dates from 2 weeks to 7 months out and all return the same error..
Error:
The selected flight is available, but the class you selected is not available or no setting.
Please check User Hints for more information, and search again.
(E_A01P03_0014)
ANA defines a “change” as same routing, different time. Any class of service or different routing is a “cancellation/redeposit/rebooking.”
Moreover, any miles used to book the award that have “expired” are not eligible for redeposit. This differs from even the dreadful AF/KLM FlyingBlue, where those miles appear to be returned until a batch job is run later that clears them out.
In other words, the “only 3,000 miles” to cancel is not definitely true unless you’ve used your miles within 24 months of crediting them.
Hey Drew, I noticed this post has a date of February 4, 2019 but all of the comments are from 4 years ago. Did the post-date get messed up somehow when you reactivated your blog?