Two weeks in a row! This podcast/video thing is a real thing now. My goal is to have interesting conversations with experts on travel and miles and points and let people listen. Last week was with Frequent Miler, this week is with Stefan from Rapid Travel Chai.
Stefan is the most well traveled person I know. And he’s not just a country-counter, he’s someone passionate about seeing interesting things in a country or interesting parts of a culture. Because of his travel passion he’s an expert on miles, credit cards, and all kinds of things we didn’t talk about (like car rentals). Mostly we talked about travel (because that’s the reason we do this whole miles and points thing).
Update: I will have this up as an iTunes podcast as soon as my computer skills reach ~2010. Whichβ¦ I said will “take another 24 hours” a week ago. Clearly my estimates were off. I don’t know why iTunes hates me.
Skip ahead to a part we talked about:
- Counting countries (UN vs travelers century club)
- How do you see so much? @ 4:20
- Avoiding touristy places (and finding local spots) @ 9:18
- Miles from credit cards @ 25:10
For Those Who Read
Country counts
I once mentioned the travelers’ century club in a post on how there’s no good way to count countries.
For instance if you’ve been to Northern Ireland have you been to the UK? But as Stefan put it, they use a list of UN countries plus self governed territories. Is Kosovo a country? Some countries in the UN say yes and some say no. Kosovo says it’s Kosovo and Serbia still says it’s Serbia.
The travelers’ century club defines countries in a much more broad way. England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland would all be separate and wouldn’t just be the UK.
One thing I never heard before this conversation is how Antartica is actually divided into different territories (despite it just being some uninhabited chunk of ice). Look it up! He said some members of the travelers’ century club planned a trip (costing $80,000) to go stand on the center and check it off their list. Crazy.
Avoiding Tourist Traps
Wise words on spotting a touristy town. Mojito bars, wax museums, and in the US, “fudge shops”. Hilarious. Recently I spotted a restaurant that had a pirate in the middle of Riga’s old town. What the heck?
Stefan talks about getting to see the local history and sites when he travels. One of his sources is LonelyPlanet as they include so much information and he goes through it and looks for unique or more obscure places and then plans a route to go see those places.
Credit Cards
Stefan earns at least half of his miles from credit card sign up bonuses. A lot of MS or resell tactics can take more commitment and have higher risk.
Personally, I hugely relate. Not having a home I easily skip out on half the opportunities. I spend zero effort learning about a lot of things and just try to do a few. Like portal stuff. I don’t have a home to ship anything to, so I tend to only do what I can liquidate instantly. And relating to the risk, I shared how we traveled around latin america with thousands of dollars in gift cards because we couldn’t fit all the liquidating in before our flight.
He tends to go big every 90 days or more. Sometimes really big, as he said he did 12 in one day recently. And while he says it’s “not scientific”, he seems to have each system figured out pretty well.
One thing I’ve noticed about Stefan is that he ventures out and gets credit cards other people aren’t talking about. I mentioned how few people talk about the Fairmont card, but it’s basically the same sign up bonus as the Hyatt one – two free nights. Of course, he already has the card. But he also goes for less popular banks too. He mentions going for two Capital One venture cards, FlexPerks cards, and more Club Carlson cards. It’s just interesting because he didn’t list one of the 5 cards you hear about every day in this hobby.
“Have you been?”
That was funny. Of course he’s been. π
π He hasn’t been to the center of antartica. :-p
I actually always assume that he’s been somewhere and often ask his advice assuming. But I still ask. π
I was wondering if it’s true that Stefan and Mr. Bow Tie were specifically asked
during the Dan’s DO not to advertise the Alaska BofA multiple cards/day option?
Dan is blaming those two for killing the deal…
Funny how MMS is giving credit to Stefan when it’s well known they found out
about the deal from Dan π I think Drew, you are starting to lose your credibility
by hanging out with the BA guys… What’s next, the interview with TPG or MMS?
http://millionmilesecrets.com/2015/05/13/i-got-5-alaska-airlines-cards-on-the-same-day/
I once heard a description of middle school that was as follows:
It’s as if you lined everyone up in order of most cool to the least cool. If you associate with people to your right, the least cool, you yourself move further down the line that direction. But if you can associate with people to your left, people cooler than you, you yourself move up in coolness.
It is discouraging to me when I realize that a small portion of the frequent flyer community still operates like this description of middle school.
Clearly the negative commenters here are extremely unfamiliar with rapidtravelchai.
@Jessica, what sterotypes do you have of BA? Credit card pushing? Ruining deals? Now go look at his blog and find any affiliate links or deal-pushing at all. And even if he did he is still an expert on all things travel.
@Andrew in regards to the MMS deal-killing, I’m not sure where to begin. I’m sure there are a small group of people who want to take credit for all the good deals ever found and blame someone else… but there is an extreme lack of facts and a lot of hearsay.
Please click through to the MMS and see that he links to FM who posted it first. But you didn’t post FM’s link as a deal killer. Because the facts aren’t in order.
And where did FM get the idea from? Well, I was a part of the original email chain where he asked Stefan and I can tell you that Greg was already planning on applying for as many as possible and all Stefan said was that he could try a bunch or one at a time… which he did. Has zero to do with Dansdeals, and it has little do with Stefan. And again, it was FM who first posted not MMS.
Which is to say that this entire comment is great for gossip, and incredibly off if you care about facts.
I know arguing with details is not the way to move up the popularity chain, and I should probably brag about hanging out with… Um… Rick Steves or something. Cuz he doesn’t kill deals.
I don’t build blog credibility by some middle school system of association, nor do I abide by the idea that these people are further down the chain than I. I write good content and I befriend good people.
Getting sucked into what? The only thing that’s changed about this blog (besides the new sexy design (and a few technical problems)) is that I also have videos. No one is forced to watch or listen to them.
Very disappointing comments that represent a small but often very vocal negative portion of this hobby. There are few better people to associate then the people mentioned. The only thing anyone needs to worry about “getting sucked into” is this mentality.
Are you serious? You don’t think MMS killed that deal?
Of course he did. He used his site to spread out the world and made his
unexperienced newbies apply for 12 (TWELVE) Alaska cards at a time!
This deal was going on for years, but he just needed some excitement
to add to his boring, full-of-crap and full-of-lame stock photos infomercial site.
Him, TPG and BA are the worst of the worst in this right now and it has nothing
to do with any school, middle or kindergarten. They are in this for the money
and social popularity ONLY. Nothing else. The lame contest who’s
on the main page more often. 100 “posts” per day. Delta is suddenly great again –
luckily only for one more day until the signup goes away, thanks god.
They know the game is ending soon, their stream of bonuses must be getting thin.
If anyone has any credibility – he should run away from this group.
I get it, you need to put food on the table every day. Your choice.
I honestly think you are often borderline when it comes to “hacking”,
I find many of your hacks dishonest (Uber). But that’s just personal, everybody
needs to draw that line for himself. But connecting with the BA guys
is just too much. Go for it, your choice…
And yes, Stefan seems like a decent guy, very unique in his approach
to actually discovering the world, not airport lounges. But he is still part of BA,
sorry that just simply puts him on the BA level to me now. I had different views
about it 2 years ago I admit. But what this whole “blogging” thing became
since is laughable. Sad and laughable…
Not sure what any of this has to do with this interview. Who is and isn’t “the worst” isn’t relevant.
Also, not sure how doing interviews (that people can download the mp3 of directly from my site) has anything to do with putting food on the table.
Not sure what borderline hacks have anything to do with anything either (besides making all your opinions known).
Just seems like an angry rant, that’s not so relevant to this blog at all.
Also “BA” being “the worst” is ridiculous. BA is basically a hosting platform… like wordpress, except for travel bloggers. They help with back end and can put ads on your site. There is no they. Each blog has values that reflect the person. BA governs nothing of the bloggers itself. There is zero possible correlation on content. The different between Frequent Miler and I is that he doesn’t want to spend hours and hours and hours a week on techie back end stuff, and we do. It has nothing to do with content and everything with “the kids who sit at that table shouldn’t be cool at all because they don’t even have nunchuck skills.”
Drew, Sorry you are so defensive of this post and “disappointed” in my comment which simply expressed that I don’t personally read the BA blogs that you interviewed anymore for various reasons which include but are not limited to irresponsible credit card pushing and reckless posting of deals to the detriment of our hobby.
Frankly, both bloggers lost my trust somewhere down the road and that is why I choose not to read their blogs anymore even if they are an expert in their field. Jeff Skilling was also an expert in his field but I wouldn’t trust him to keep my accounting records.
Now, I am not saying these are bad people and I don’t know them personally but this is a blog and I don’t find them to be trustworthy bloggers. That is just my own opinion and the conclusion I have drawn from years of being in this hobby.
Also, I think you are being a bit naive if you don’t believe that many bloggers on BA have killed deals. I want to share knowledge and information with everybody. And I want everybody to have the opportunity to experience travel. But I also want our hobby to be around for a very long time. I think bloggers need to find a responsible way to disseminate information. I think bloggers have a responsibility to protect this hobby and people’s financial lives. And, morally, I will not read blogs where I feel this is not the case.
I’m not sure how the popularity contest you are referring to came about. I never discussed your friendship with any other bloggers. Nor did I say anything about them on a personal level. This is not about being cool. This is about being a good, reliable and responsible source of information. I really hope you can see the difference from your reader’s perspective. And I really hope that you realize that there are dishonest bloggers out there. Nothing personal.
Honestly, as a loyal reader of YOUR blog, I am offended by your defensive and patronizing response.
Jessica,
First, part of the “cool” is in reference to Andrew’s comment above.
Second, I have little reason to be defensive, other than it’s ridiculous to think that FM or RTC have held anything less than the best standards for themselves and their blog. Not really defensive, it’s just true.
I’m sorry you feel offended, but nothing I have said is untrue. If you don’t like the interview, that’s fine. Truly, that’s okay with me, and I don’t expect everyone to love em.
But to say that I should distance myself from BoardingArea is both ignorant of how boardingarea actually works (where each blog is 100% independent) and it resembles the “us vs them” mentality I try to distance myself from in all parts of my life.
I’m confused about what Stefan has ever written about that is “gray” and I encourage you to peak at his website.
I actually agree with keeping your distance from BA. Although you interviewed 2 of the more “acceptable” bloggers from BA, both still operate in the gray area very much and both have posted things that killed great deals. I personally don’t read either blog that you interviewed anymore. I stopped going to their blog for a reason. Plus, it definitely feels like I’m reading MMS when I see your “Interview with…” post. I just don’t like it. But, it’s your blog so do what you want.
I’m very disappointed to hear such us vs them comments on this blog. My response is above, when I reply to Andrew.
I agree I don’t like this series at all. I read you, Drew, because you are so different from BA and post unique content you come up with. It is beginning to feel like you might be getting sucked in. As they say “it’s all in the company you keep.”
Iβm very disappointed to hear such us vs them comments on this blog. My response is above, when I reply to Andrew.
I love the interviews, keep them rolling!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Drew
This is YOUR blog, period! Worth remembering that when you receive comments like these.
A friendly piece of advice. Cut your interviews a bit shorter. Keep stuff that’s really important and leave other things out. I like both Stephan and you very much, but seriously, who has the time? π
Drew and Andy, I like both of your blogs very much (although, sometimes I inexplicably cannot load Andy’s).
I like the interviews and I also don’t mind them being long. I know that everyone is extremely busy, but sometimes I’m really busy doing boring stuff, like folding laundry, doing dishes, paying credit card bills, etc. The interviews are wonderful for listening to while I do stuff like that. My other favorite is Observation Deck, and I have more laundry to do than that podcast can cover.
I could go into it further, but suffice it to say I agree completely with Drew on travel blogging as middle school. This hobby is actually full of a lot of really nice, cool people, none of them perfect. My only concern about the interview series is that it’s going to be hard to keep up this level of quality… FM, RTC, where do you go from there?
We’ll find out. π
I have a friend who has a saying, “people are people, and shoes are shoes”. I say it all the time, but only half know what it means. But people are people. No one is perfect and when you have a blog sometimes every thought is public.
I like that paying credit card bills is as time consuming as folding laundry. π
Thanks for the comment.
Keep up the good work Drew you just gotta do you. Jamie thanks for the shoutout. Drew email me if iTunes is still bugging out it took us awhile to square that too but happy to help
Your right Andy. It doesn’t get under my skin personally. But I don’t want my comments to become a place where the cool kids sit and make fun of other people.
In regards to long content; it’s really for people like me who hate doing nothing for an hour. I have a long drive, bus ride, whatever it may be, and I listen to something.
Better than nothing (maybe I should make that a site motto).
I am enjoying the interviews. So far I have learned things from each one. Don’t feel pressure to put one out every week. It can be frustrating having to keep changing tactics and strategies in this hobby; perhaps that is what you are hearing. Keep doing your own good work Drew, and I will be glad to keep reading! Take care.
Thanks. I appreciate the positive feedback Richard. Hopefully the interviews improve in technical quality and interview skills :-p But thanks for following while I’m starting something new.
Great stuff! With any luck this will grow into something along the lines of MMS’s interview series!
Thanks Dave!
I’m happy you are intervewing poeple who add value to our hobby. There are shady bloggers out there so I hope you don’t bring them here. But it’s your choice. I personally read many blogs.. it’s easy to differentiate between infomercial and content so I just read the content posts and skip the rest. But these shady people will not get my clicks.. it usually goes to a good blogger like you, FM or RTC.
Stefan is a friend and the most down to earth guy ever. He has a full time job and makes nothing from pimping cards, ect…. He is one of the purest travel hackers I know.
I have enjoyed the interviews. Keep them coming….
Loving the interview series, and still the only blogger who comes up with new ideas. Not really relevant comparing you to other bloggers, so all those bitching can go cry somewhere else.
Keep up the good work, man.
I’m fairly new to travel hacking. Drew, I found you from the Creative Live Dream Trip series with Chris and Stephanie. Tell me, in your opinion what are the top 3-5 travel hacking blogs/websites/podcasts I should follow (do not include yours because that’s a given.) Thank you!
I was excited to see your interview with Stefan. He does a great job presenting at FTU, and I love that he travels for the love of travel above anything else.
I’m a big fan of Travel is Free. You guys, along with FM and RTC, are an exclusive group of bloggers who provide truly original content. You guys spend the time to research and push the limits. It’s different from other BA bloggers who talk about the same thing, copy-and-paste promotion terms and conditions, or summarize the summaries. Keep up the good work!
I will admit, I didn’t read the whole troll thread, instead I rushed down to make a comment. Drew, you are Caroline are living the dream I had for way too many years. Keep posting great stuff, long chats between the “cool kids” and whatever other nuggets inspire me. At 48 I am finishing raising my kids and one day I might be the granny who globetrots with you youngsters. You and a few other bloggers inspired me to sell my husband on the idea. We both applied for our Chase Sapphire cards and are on our way. (Everyone seems to love CSP.)
Looking forward to more and more content from you two. You have a loyal subscriber in Woodinville, WA. (Known for wine, wine, wine. Give me a shout if you are around.)
I looked just now at my bookmarks and, just as I thought, there’s only one blog where I have bookmarked several pages. That would be yours.
Keep up the good work.
To all the others who are complaining…….SHUT UP ALREADY.
Hey Drew; I am continuing to enjoy your articles, sorry to see you receive such harsh criticism from some in your blogging community. I guess ignorance is bliss in my case. I just see you as a giving person sharing thoughts and knowledge. I plan to watch your videos and get caught up with your endeavors when not navigating the terminals. Keep your chin up Drew; if it was easy, everybody would be doing what you are doing. Pay no attention to unconstructive criticism.
I love this blog, I hate video. I want to read rather then watch. I hope the good content of this blog remains written and those video’s disappear. I now have to watch, and dislike it profoundly.
Thanks for reminding people not to be total “Dicks” . I think everyone needs a little humbling as we travel through this short life. More wag, less bark!
Love the blog and ditto on all the comments about how original your content is.
Can I give some constructive criticism?
– Ask an open-ended question and then step back and listen to the full answer. If you want to interject, great. Just don’t interrupt.
Seriously, nothing personal… I just think the conversation will flow better.
Thanks for all your work.