Now despite coming up with all kinds of crazy routes, I’m no Rapid Travel Chai. Partly for sustainability reasons as full time travelers, we like to stay in one place for a long time.
However, there are some cities that I only need 24 hours in. And there are great routes which would allow layovers in great cities. I’ll first talk about booking long layovers, and then go into picking cities perfect for layovers, and my strategies for hotels and baggage during a layover.
Booking The Layovers
Each airline has different routing rules and policies for layovers. But in general airlines allow layovers that are less than 24 hours on international tickets.
This means we were able to book a 23 hour layover in Aruba (not including the fact our flight coming in was super early).
In general, this is how I go about finding and booking a layover.
The Passive Layover Booking
The first and easiest way is just look at the natural connections during your award search. Usually the flights at the top are your shortest travel times and the flights at the bottom are the longest travel times. To look for long layovers, simply check out the award options at the bottom of the search results.
Again, these are sorted by total travel time, so flights with more connections could be at the bottom. But more connections and more flying isn’t what we want. We want longer time at our connections, with less of them. So look for the flight furthest down the list with only one connection.
As I’ll discuss, I don’t just take the longest route, I take the most desirable route. I personally don’t want a 13 hour layover in London, as I’ve already seen it and it’s not a short trip into town. But if there is a city I haven’t seen or would love to visit, that makes sense for a layover, I will favor that route.
Scrolling to the bottom on a few random examples, I found some possibly cool layover options.
8 hours in Vienna
Or Brussels for 10+ hours
While this first method might work for airlines that show most of their partners, like United and Aeroplan, it doesn’t often work with airlines that don’t show all their partners, like US Airways or AA.
The Not Passive Layover Booking
The other way to book a layover is to piece together the itinerary you want. This is pretty simple in theory.
- Pick a city you would like to have a layover in
- Find the arrival times for that city
- Find outbound flights that depart less than 24 hours after arrival
For example, let’s just say I want to go to Istanbul, but on the way I’d like to visit Budapest, which isn’t a hub. I’ll be using United miles.
On an April 13th departure from Chicago, I’d land in Budapest on the 14th. Possible times are:
- 10:50 am
- 8:55 am
- 2:10 pm
- 6:10 pm
- 10:30 pm
Plenty of options getting to Budapest.
Now I’m going to check out flights from Budapest to Istanbul on April 15th. I found outbound flights at:
- 11:25 am
- 7:00 am
- 2:45 pm
Now there are so many options. I could fly in on 14th at 6:10 pm and fly out at 11:25 am or 2:45 pm the next day. Or I could fly in at 8:55 am on the 14th and fly out at 7:00 am the next day.
United gives a stopover and a destination, this layover counts as neither. So what I’ll do is book this layover in Budapest on the way to Turkey and then a stopover for a week in Paris on the return flight.
However, I’ll show what this looked like just booking a oneway with a layover.
The result:
Unfortunately, with most of these routes you’ll have to call in. With most airlines you have to call in, and if you were to make this a roundtrip with United and add a stopover too, you’ll likely have to call in.
Airlines whose routing rules allow long layovers
I know routes like this are very possible with many airlines. For exmaple:
- United miles
- US Airways miles
- Aeroplan miles
- AA miles
What you need to know about United and AA routes:
United has connection limits.
Going from North America to any of the following destinations will result in a limitation of connections (4 connections on roundtrips and 3 for one-ways): Australia, Oceania, Japan, SE Asia, North Asia, and Central Asia. Otherwise these limitations don’t apply.
If you’d like to learn more, read the Complete Guide to United’s Routing Rules.
AA has MPM limits.
For the most part you just need to know the zone limits of AA’s routing rules. Read Hacking AA’s Routing Rules.
However, they also have a Maximum Permitted Mileage which only allows you to fly so many miles on the way to a route. Again, for the most part, the post above explains the routing limits properly. So it’s not as important to limit the number of connections as it is to remain in the same region and anything reasonable on the way.
If you look at the actual flight route, according to GCMap.com, on a flight from Chicago to Istanbul, you fly over Germany and Vienna.
Flight direct:
Flight with stops in Berlin and Vienna:
This is a stupid simple way of explaining this, but in general “on the way” layovers are allowed. If you want to find the limits of “on the way” you need to look up your route on expertflyer.com and, find the MPM, add 25% and then test routes on GCmap.com. But above is an example of assuming it’s allowed because it’s reasonably on the way. For the most part that’s all you need.
Pick cities for Layovers
I don’t think I would ever do a long layover in London. It would take an hour and 30 minutes just to get downtown on the subway. 3 hours of transit is too much. Kuala Lumpur is another city where the airport is absurdly far from downtown. Although if you’re willing to pay, both cities have faster direct trains (but I’m too cheap).
Examples of great cities for layovers:
- Singapore
- Hong Kong
- Panama City
- Amsterdam
- Prague
- Vienna
Singapore is actually the best example. The airport isn’t but 15 minutes from downtown, and taxis are reasonable. Close to town, cheap transport options, and multiple transport options.
Plus, I don’t really feel the need to spend a week in Singapore. Vienna, I could spend forever. But really, Singapore and Hong Kong area great examples of seeing the skyline. Panama City is another example where I go to see the old city and the skyline and I’m ready to move on.
Strategy: Hotels & Bags
Some people sleep on the plane and layover in a city for the day. I personally find this absolutely looney. I can’t sleep on a plane. And even so, I want to be well rested for my day in a city.
Thus, I typically try to make my layover fit so we spend the night in the city. This is both so I’m getting well rested so I can actually enjoy the city, and also because I need a place to put my bags. My first time in Singapore a few years ago we drug our bags everywhere and were completely exhausted by the experience, seeing as we just got off an international flight. We had from 6 am to 10 pm in Singapore and just spent the entire evening in the Singapore business class lounge (not a bad thing).
Just in terms of feeling well rested, getting a hotel for our next trip to Singapore was well worth it. I feel like we saw more and actually slept well.
In terms of luggage, I suppose there are many ways to go about a layover:
- Get a hotel
- Check your bags all the way through
- I once read about a guy who had a layover and asked a random 5-star hotel downtown to hold his luggage. I’m not sure if they thought he was staying there, but if not, it’s a very nice hotel. Although I’m sure a tip to the bell boy wouldn’t hurt.
Picking a hotel
This is normally a time where I justify splurging. I’ve said this a few times, but I love the view of Hong Kong, and the last two times we were there it was for something like 18-20 hours.
What would be the point of laying over in Hong Kong and getting a hotel far away from Hong Kong? I would hopefully have the energy after a flight to take the train downtown and see the view. But as it was, we stayed at the InterContinental Hong Kong, which has the best view of Hong Kong, period. I woke up and saw the Hong Kong skyline.
In my opinion you need a hotel downtown, or if you have a really early flight, a hotel near the airport, which is usually cheaper.
Getting a free hotel downtown for one night is usually pretty easy.
- You can use a free night cert from a credit card, like the annual cert from the IHG card, or Hyatt card.
- Use points. After all, it’s only one night.
- The new IHG Promo gives two free night certs.
- Hotel’s Best Rate Guarantee
I’ve written about in the past how I’ve gotten completely free nights at downtown hotels due to Best Rate Guarantees with IHG, Choice, Hilton and some booking sites. While this is normally a tedious task that only gets one night… in this case, 1 night is all you need.
I know that for our layover in Dusseldorf, Germany last year, the hotel prices downtown were insane. Or anywhere. But a couple days before our flight I checked back again and scored a BRG at the IC Dusseldorf.
(Oddly enough, the hotel still charged my card and I got a qualifying night that earned 22,000 points from the $350 stay. Then IHG mailed me a check that was $15+ more than my stay to adjust for foreign transaction fees, which I don’t pay on my credit cards. I made a few bucks and 22,000 points, and stayed in a luxury hotel with lounge access).
If you’re interested in more, read the Complete Guide to Hotel Best Rate Guarantees.
Places we’ve stayed on layovers:
I’d like to end with some pictures of our layovers. It’s more or less the “why” of layovers.
Hong Kong many times
Aruba (the Renaissance is right next to the airport and has a private island)
If you have any tips on layovers, perfect layover cities (like airports close to town), or especially any tips on what to do with your bags, please let me know.
Drew
Interesting post, I love playing the “layover game” on award tickets too. Ideally 22+ hours, from early afternoon until early afternoon.
Recently booked an Asia-US itinerary on United that goes from Istanbul to Geneva to Montreal, with 23:45 in Geneva.
My proudest moment was once getting 24 hours on the dot, in Bangkok I think, I had to look up whether that counts as an allowed layover, and it does.
Wow, 24 hours is impressive. Our Aruba layover I mentioned, was actually 23:30 and it was nearly an hour early! I’ve never even heard of flights being an hour early, and the one time it was is the time I had one day in Aruba. Down wind or something… An Aruba miracle.
I would say that Frankfurt is an excellent layover city. Downtown is served by frequent trains that are every few minutes. Another option would be to take the 45 minute ride to Cologne, which has a train straight from the airport and goes 300 km/hr.
I’ve never been to Frankfurt, and honestly kind of avoided because I didn’t know what to assume. But I’m sure I’ll have a chance to get a layover there, next time I’ll have to actually do Frankfurt instead of routing through other *A cities.
Great article, I love Aruba and this is a great way to stop without it being a final destination. I’m going to try that one out soon. 🙂
For West Coasters, try out Vancouver (YVR)! You can either do a layover on an AA ticket (British Airways onto Europe or Cathay Pacific to JFK are two great examples out of YVR) or position yourself there for a stopover with British Airways Avios from major West Coast hubs like LAX/SFO (using Alaska Airlines, must call BA for booking).
I just used AA miles to go LAX->YVR (Alaska Airlines first class, 8-hour layover)->LHR (British Airways first class).
Vancouver has:
– Short/inexpensive subway direct to Downtown
– Easy/inexpensive luggage storage right next to airport exit
– Downtown is walkable with shopping, Canada Place, etc
– Free shuttles to Grouse Mountain & Capilano Suspension Bridge
– Fairmont Hotel at airport with shower facilities for small fee (I hiked Grouse Grind last time I was there, needed a shower bad!)
Great tip. Carrie has been itching to go to Vancouver, so I may be forced to make that a stopover. :-p
I would do a London layover again. 12 hours in the Lounge with all of London to explore? No thanks.
Layovers are a great way to add some extra to a trip for “free” I would also add Dubai to list.
We flew into London like 4 times in 3 months, so the layover train appeal lost out the last time to a very lame lounge (Lounge Club fail). But I was way too tired to do anything else.
“we stayed at the InterContinental Hong Kong, which has the best view of Hong Kong, period.”
I raise you the view from the Ritz Carlton, which I booked on a 23.5 HR layover thanks to this site and explanations of United routing rules.
I never have Marriott points anymore, but if I did, I would book that hotel in a heart beat.
I actually thought it was the mystery hotel on Hotwire and almost booked it for $250. Maybe not almost, but I was tempted.
I snapped back into when I remembered that last time I thought I figured out the hotel, it was in a completely different area. #hotwirefail #redundant
But I kind of feel like the IC is closer. But judging by the pictures looking over the Hong Kong Island, I would faint of excitement.
Yikes, Aruba! If you are flying to the US from Aruba, ensure plenty of time, 3 hours min?, to pass through US customs there. It was one of the most nightmarish customs experiences I’ve been in. Granted, the CIS computers had gone down, but the ineptitude and aditude were unforgettable.
That’s interesting because we showed up at the airport 20 minutes before our flight. We got scolded and actually ended up arriving before boarding even started.
Two words: Global Entry
Do the same principles apply when paying for a ticket, as opposed to using award miles?
You can’t really force anything on a paid ticket. But if you see a long route you can take it. But none of the same rules apply.
You drug’ged’ your bags?
Well, we carried them.
Beijing!
A quick stop to the Forbidden city or if you have more time as we did (23:45) you can visit the Great Wall. Staying at a Hostel at the walls entrance you can make it for sunrise!
You can visit the wall in 23 hours from beijing? That’s pretty neat. I would like to go to the forbidden city. Every time I have the opportunity to layover in Beijing it’s winter, and I forgo that chance and swap it out with Hong Kong every time. I guess it’s time I try something new.
… next time it’s summer.
Hey Drew,
Good thing we put together a database for 23 hour layovers at the top 50 airports by traffic in North America, Europe and Asia. It includes transit time and cost using the most common modes and I took a stab at rank ordering them. There’s also info on luggage storage and shower availability at the airport. Can often ditch your bags there. Might be useful to you and readers (and feel free to update if info changes – this is absolutely a community resource)
n.b. DL allows <=24hr layovers as well
Currently on a 24 hour layover in London (yes the tube takes a while), but it was ostenisbly to see friends for drinks and lunch. If you know a city well, they become way more bearable.
If you have any interest or time, would you be interested in helping me research "secret" connecting cities to pull these off on alliances that aren't the same as the hub airline. (i.e. CDG on Star Alliance or OneWorld)
And here’s the link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sVWoBCJdO70wftSf0MDEij0jnJquvhVMnNVgqHaDX3A/edit#gid=453466150
Eric – only domestic?
It’s great info. Not sure what you mean by “secret” connecting cities, but I honestly don’t have time to do much research outside of what I’m already doing.
Qantas routes using AA or AS miles are another great option for layovers on award travel, and there are good places in Australia for that kind of thing. On my trip a couple of months ago I booked one daylong stop in Brisbane between Sydney and Cairns. Airport shuttle to the downtown bus station, baggage lockers at the station. The city’s attractions are within walking distance from there, on either side of the Brisbane River.
Another was between Alice Springs and Sydney at Darwin (2-10 p.m., prior to my flights home via Sydney). This time my bags were checked through. Regular shuttle to the city, and the harbor is in walking distance of the last stop at their office. I actually had several hours in Sydney too in the morning. I had been there before, but it was nice to stroll the harbor at sunrise.
If you’re booking Qantas with AA or especially AS miles, just use the methods Drew describes here. AS seems to show lots and lots of alternative routings.
Actually, if I hadn’t needed to get back to work, I could have worked the trip for yet another layover in Perth on the way home. I’m no Drew when it comes to figuring out rules, but I’m assuming the crazy itineraries within Australia work out because I’m also booking the trans-Pacific leg before or after them. I don’t know whether or not you could do them on purely domestic Australian itineraries.
Brisbane and Darwin. Honestly, I love Australian cities. Would love to just “hop” around with Avios or something one day.
I had a great layover in Nagoya, JP enroute to taking the Island Hopper in GUM (well, was supposed to- ended up having a profitable “layover” day in Guam too thanks to UA)
Very easy to get into the city, train runs right there. Drops you off in the center of town and you can hit up the basement of any of the dept store buildings for a really cheap lunch (under $5). Or try a kombini for bento etc. Walk a couple blocks and you can get the city tourist bus for like $5. I went to the Nagoya Castle and the science museum which apparently has the largest planetarium in the world. Student discount at the museum made it really cheap. There was a Japanese garden I went to, forget the name. I also found a music instrumentatelier (fancy name for place to try and customize instruments) and had a good 2 hrs playing Yamaha trumpets, close to the stop for the planetarium. I’m friends with some Yamaha artists, own a custom, and have been to their LA shop so this was really cool for me. There were tons of reasonably priced places to eat dinner in this area (<$10)
Seems like people say Nagoya kinda sucks but I found plenty to do in a day there.
Don’t know if you saw, but there was a mistake fare in Nagoya, and I just wasn’t interested. Not because I was against it, but just don’t know much about the interesting parts of Japan. So it’s interesting to hear that you liked Nagoya. But maybe it was a day-trip city?
Just wondering if I should regret not booking a month. 😀
Mainz Germany is 30 minutes by frequent trains to/from Frankfurt Airport. Here are sites you can easily see in 8 hours:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainz_Cathedral
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Museum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Stephen%27s_Church,_Mainz
Those German cities on the river in that part of the country are so cool.
I had a week at a mistake fare that I skipped south of there, would have been 5Euros for a 4 star hotel. Kind of wish I had gone.
I always try to use 23hrs layovers arriving early whenever possible and spending the night, too. It feels like a real trip this way. Berlin is another great city that you should add to the list. TXL is really close to East Berlin, and you can explore it on foot, easily. Madrid is another example. Not close to the airport, but has a very convenient airport bus that takes you right into the heart of the city, and the hotels are cheap enough, so no need to worry about a point-stay.
I think I’m going to try to always have a long layover. I mean, sitting in the airport for a layover isn’t efficient either, but this way I can break up any exhausting flying.
Would love to visit Madrid.
I’ve recently been looking for award space from Orlando (or nearby airports) to Maui for Feb 13 to Feb 21, 2015 (plus or minus a few days). If I call in to book a domestic award that connects on the west coast, what are the layover rules? I’ve read somewhere that it’s a 4 hour layover rule for domestic flights. I’ve also read that they allow a layover of more than 4 hours if arriving on the last flight of the night and departing on the first flight in the morning. However, some of the flight options I’ve seen online have layovers in the middle of the day longer than 4 hours. What will work and what won’t work in this situation?
I think it depends on the airline. I think AA is pretty strict about it being 4 hours on domestic flights. I’m not entirely sure about them doing over nights on domestics, but I doubt it.
So you could try using something with dumb agents, like US Air miles. No idea what Delta rules are at all.
Hi! How did you like Dusseldorf? Was it worth it?
Would you recommend any other good layover/stopover cities on route to Milan?
And what would you do with luggage if it’s not an overnight? Say, only 9 hours or so.
Thanks so much for your advice! Great article.