As I explained, we spent 47 Days of Hotels in Egypt for $0. See, the points hotels in Egypt are mostly category 1 and 2 hotels.
This means that the Hilton we stayed at was 5,000 points a night. The 80,000 point credit card would get you 16 nights, not including 5th night free. Our favorite Club Carlson hotel in Egypt was 9,000 points a night. At these rates, we could essentially spend 47 nights on points, for the cost of 9 nights at a top tiered hotel.
That being said, I didn’t exactly enjoy every hotel. Some of them were great, and one was borderline terrible.
I’ll break it down into three sections
If you’re interested in the cost of the hotels and how many nights we were there, check out the post; 47 Days of Hotels in Egypt for $0.
1) El Quseir, Marsa Alam, and Hurghada
Getting from one town to another required a $15 – $20 taxi ride. Which is super cheap considering it was over an hour to get anywhere.
Radisson Blu El Quseir
9,000 Club Carlson points a night
This hotel is an absolute steal for 9,000 points. Like, there is something seriously wrong here. The hotel was fantastic. I think this was the prettiest beach and scenery of all the hotels we stayed at.
The grounds were awesome, the rooms were unique, and the long beach front was incredibly scenic. Way more beach space than you’d get at any other location. Still shallow unless you jump off the pier, past the coral.
However, this was the most expensive snorkel rental, something like 10 Euros a day, when the other places were a few dollars a day.
Without a doubt, it was the most money we spent on food. You are truly in the middle of nowhere. I said that about the Hilton Waterfalls in Sharm, but I could walk and get a cheaper water if I wanted. Here, there was only one option, and it was the hotel.
We got room service every night, mostly pasta, and it still came out to be a decent amount of money. Around $35/day.
Hilton Marsa Alam Nubian Resort – all inclusive
20,000 Hilton HHonors points a night (no 5th night free on all-inclusives)
There are so many amazing things to say about this hotel, but first I should acknowledge that it was 4 times more than most of the other Hilton hotels we stayed at. That being said, 20,000 points is not a lot!
First, we got a huge suite, and it was without a doubt the nicest hotel room we got in Egypt. It felt like a real 5 star hotel.
Then there’s the obvious: the fact that all the food is included. The food quality is not as terrible as I’d expect based on the other Hiltons, but it’s not fine dining (like the Hyatt Ziva Rose Hall in Jamaica). Some good, some bad, and few local things I thought were interesting. So I’d start with very small quantities of anything to taste before getting a real plate.
But the best part was the snorkeling.
We saw lots of lionfish, and even a few small sting rays. Apparently a few turtles were hanging out in the center of the bay, but we didn’t have any luck finding them.
The best off the beach snorkeling of all the Egypt hotels, and better than a lot of other places we’ve been for snorkeling. Seriously, when we would tell people we were touring around Egypt and that we like to snorkel, a number of people told us we must go to Marsa Alam. We originally weren’t planning on burning 80,000 points on a 4 night stay (given that 40,000 points got us 10 nights at the Waterfalls), but it was well worth it.
I really enjoyed El Quseir and Marsa Alam the most, and while the Radisson Blu El Quseir was a better deal on points (you can’t beat 9,000 Club Carlson points for a nice hotel!), we spent a lot of money on food. In Marsa Alam we had an even better experience and spent zero dollars on food. Instead, we paid more in points.
The more expensive problem with Marsa Alam is that it is further south, and therefore costs more money to get to. Easily $30+ and 2 hours each way from Hurghada (the closest airport)… but that’s less than a day’s worth of food in El Quseir, and it still takes $15+ to get there.
(Note that Marsa Alam does have an airport – RMF – and there are flights on Egypt Air. But when searching United.com I found award availability was pretty rare).
Hilton Hurghada Resort
5,000 Hilton HHonors points a night
This was a terrible hotel with nice rooms. The beach water is dirty because you’re near the main piers, the wifi is non-existent, the food, our room service plates would sit outside our room for more than 24 hours, etc…
The good news is that there was a Thai restaurant nearby. 😀 A good break.
Don’t bother with this hotel, really. You won’t want to swim in the water here if you saw the next two hotels.
2) Sharm El Sheikh
Sharm is a diving town and for a lot of people this is the real draw.
The entire Red Sea is covered with cheap all-inclusive hotels. And when I say cheap, I mean it both in price and quality. A guy I met outside a hotel at dinner told me that most hotels spend between $2 and $3 a day per person on all food and drinks with an all-inclusive plan. I’m not sure how accurate that is, but after the breakfast I had there… it was totally believable.
I’ll go through the hotels we stayed at chronologically.
Hilton Dreams Resort Sharm El Sheikh
5,000 Hilton HHonors points a night
I read on FlyerTalk that some people prefer the Dreams over the Waterfalls, so I gave the hotel 5 nights instead of spending all 15 at the Waterfalls. When I saw the difference, I wanted to punch the person who said that.
First, the hotel is across the street from the hotels on the water. So you have to walk over to and through the Hilton Fayrouz‘s beach… which is terrible. Out of all the hotels, this is the worst water as it’s full of more boat traffic and it’s in the center of town. In fairness, I didn’t actually get in the water here.
The hotel itself felt like a motel, with all the rooms facing into the pool area.
The room was a normal beach hotel room, and I thought it was fine. The food was absolutely terrible, almost not worth eating breakfast. But then I found out that Gold/Diamond members get a different breakfast option with crazy things like eggs made with real eggs. Crazy. So that was a welcome surprise.
The appeal to this hotel is that you can walk places to get cheaper food. Not worth it to me given the experience, how the price difference is small, and I went to Sharm to swim in nice water.
I wouldn’t go back to the Hilton Dreams or Fayrouz if there was a mistake fare that paid me $5 a night.
Hilton Waterfalls Resort Sharm El Sheikh
5,000 Hilton HHonors points a night
This is way south of town and in the middle of nowhere. It’s a good walk to find any cheap food, although there is a little place to buy things like chips nearby.
But the hotel was the best in Sharm, although there were some perks to the Radisson Blu.
It was definitely the most beautiful hotel, with the rocky cliffs breaking up the beach, and the beautiful water. The hotel is also unique, like the elevator that went down the middle (then again, it was slow and a glass box without AC, so we only used it once).
The beaches are broken up by cliffs, which also means the beaches are tiny. More scenic but smaller beaches. And there is very very little area to swim because the coral goes all the way to the beach, and the water is very shallow. Therefore you have to walk on a little floating bridge thing past the coral.
I thought it was cool, but I could see how you would prefer a big beach to more easily jump in the water.
My only complaints would be that the internet is super slow, and I had to ask for a router to be in my room, which they didn’t have available the first day. And that you were trapped eating the hotel’s food. We ordered room service so we could work and eat, and because it was the cheapest option. Plus, the guy at the Italian restaurant was relentless in upselling us on other things.
But over all, it was a good stay. Room was nice, view was nice, and it was scenic.
Park Inn Sharm El Sheikh
15,000 Club Carlson points a night
This hotel is similar to the Dreams hotel, where you have to walk to a partner hotel with a beach. The difference is that the rooms feel like a $20 motel room, there is no wifi at all in the rooms (only in the lobby), and somehow they managed to have the worst breakfast. I didn’t think one could be worse than another, but it’s true. The food was terrible.
No beach, crappy rooms, crappy everything. It’s not worth writing anymore.
Please, do not go there!
Radisson Blu Sharm El Sheikh
15,000 Club Carlson points a night
This hotel had the best “beach”, although it still had shallow water. But you could go to the end of the pier, where the drop off at the end of the reef was deep.
As far as a nice hotel and nice view, I might prefer the Hilton Waterfalls. But this has a few other perks.
By far it has the best wifi, with a router in the room without asking (although the dreams did for Gold members as well). The location is away from town but it still has local businesses all around. So for dinner we walked half a block north and there was a little cafe on the left side. It had a “chicken swarma” that was not like any I’ve had. Lots of interesting spices and it was less than $2.
The hotel beach is, as I mentioned, the opposite of the Hilton Waterfalls. No cliffs and more actual beach. And the staff isn’t pushy.
Breakfast is an absolute mad house. Crazy.
We would get a seat, and we’d put our drinks down and then go up to get food… and when we’d get back, our stuff was cleared and someone else was sitting there.
I saw a couple put entire plates down, get up to go get something and when they came back all their food was gone because the guy cleared it to seat someone else. It was like that non-stop.
3) Sofitel Luxor, and Hilton Cairo
Luxor and Cairo were actually my favorite destinations despite spending the least amount of time there. We spent two days in Luxor and 4 in Cairo. Luxor was the first time we got to have real local food, and it was cheap and tasty. We ate on the street and didn’t get sick, but I know that’s a YMMV situation.
Sofitel Winter Palace, Luxor
As you may recall, we used Orbitz points to book the Sofitel Winter Pavilion, which was half the price of the Winter Palace, at about $60 a night. But it was closed and we got upgraded to the Sofitel Winter Palace, which was great. An actually luxurious and historic hotel, so we lucked out.
And if you get my monthly newsletter, you’ll know that I earned $80+ on our free stay. So it was very free.
If you have Orbitz points and want to go to Luxor, this hotel is a great location and it is truly an experience, which is pretty rare.
Also, it’s walking distance to the Luxor temple, and on the city side of the temple and near the mosque is a bunch of tasty street food. Not a joke, a sandwich would cost 2 Egyptian Pounds, which is about 25 cents. Not bad for something tasty and local. We liked the shakshuka – an egg, tomota and onion dish, and a kind of eggplant salad sandwich.
Hilton Cairo
10,000 Hilton HHonors points a night
The hotel is definitely old and worn down a little, but I actually enjoyed our stay.
We had a room overlooking the river, and when it was clear you could see the Pyramids.
But the best part was the breakfast on the top floor, which Gold members get for free (gotten from the credit card). It was the best breakfast of the month (by a long shot) and it was a small room where we got seated next to the giant glass windows. We had an amazing view and would sit even after we were finished eating, just drinking coffee and enjoying the view.
We also got access to the lounge, but we didn’t eat much in the lounge. It looked better than most lounges in Central America, but it’s nothing to write home about. Some finger foods and chicken was available, as well as a lot of deserts. In a more expensive country it would have been our dinner.
Conclusion
Highlights for me are:
The Radisson Blu El Quseir for only 9,000 Club Carlson points (and we paid half because of the now dead promotion with the credit card). It was a nice property and a great price. If we could have saved on food somehow, and packed our own snorkel gear, it could have been cheaper.
The Hilton Marsa Alam had the best snorkeling and free food. Can’t beat that.
Sofitel Winter Palace was very free, so that helps, but it was a great hotel in an ancient city. Cool experience.
Hey Drew,
Just wondering if you’ve changed your thoughts any bit on visiting Egypt (or any other Islamic countries in the region where there had been tension and IS related activity) since the latest incident with the Russian airliner? It’s admittedly still very unlikely that something would happen to a tourist in these places on balance, but you can’t deny that the desire to explore these places must be tempered with a serious consideration of what’s happening on the ground and that’s there’s a real risk there.
Keep up the great work as always- your blog is head and shoulders above the rest and I respect that you don’t let the CC companies dictate the content. Awesome job!
Leo
My response remains the same. I’m equally less tempted to visit a mall or school in the US due to a mass shooting.
Mass shootings are very unlikely despite a number of them happening recently. The question is equally, do I feel safe visiting the US?
I think the incident actually makes it safer to travel to Egypt. Security will be much higher in the future.
@brteacher, Yeah, I’m sure it will be “safer travel” but “safer than what they had in the past” is a low bar to improve upon. (I’ve ready just how lax things were with their security and it’s crazy)
Great write-up, thank you. I’ll be sure to review this again before traveling to Egypt to take advantage of these incredible hotel rates.
Thanks Trevor!
As a practical matter travel in and to Egypt may be difficult both for visitors and for the travel service operators for a while. The world still isn’t serious about ISIS. Either crush them, or expect them to engage in ongoing warfare against the civilized world until we do. The hundreds of Russians who died in that bomb explosion (evidently) are just the tip of the iceberg of the ongoing horror they impose on innocent civilians wherever they operate.
Thanks very much for this Drew….. still thinking to follow you come March. Comments above remind me of the wisdom in your no fear-mongering disposition…. (and I could get carried away responding to the assertion that the problem is simply ISIS, and not the brutal, worsening dictatorship. (e.g. SISI is ISIS spelled backwards)….. Nah, but I won’t, even as the concerns are…. alas, all too real.
Thanks for the visuals, the report…. and yes, will follow, one way or the other.
Exactly. And today the foreign minister blamed the west for not fighting the war on terror. Oh brother. The west is to blame for being too involved or not being involved enough. Weird.
The nile is a fantastic place to visit. I’d love Egypt’s Old Islamic Cairo, Luxor, and the nile boat rides. I’m sure you’d enjoy as well. Plus, I hear good things about Alexandria (and the 5k Hilton there).
I have to comment about these Visit Egypt on a budget posts. I did so a month ago and said that place appeared unsafe and was hit by critical posts saying how safe it is. Well it is cheap and few people are going for an obvious reason. Now a plane goes down by apparent explosives. obviously a higher risk area. Why these continuing visit Egypt posts? How about some Visit Lebanon or Baghdad or Syria posts as cheap there too. Mix it up some lol
Mike, I hope you’re not posting from the US. That place is super unsafe!
Yes, 1 plane went down in Egypt… which is not good. But equally not good are the hundreds of people who get shot in the US every single day! Every day, about 300 people are shot in the US. I don’t remember the last time a plane went down in Egypt… But…
I do have a list of mass shootings in the US, which is a form of terrorism.
http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
Averaging 1 mass shooting a day… that appears unsafe to me.
Look. I’m not saying there is ever zero percent change of danger anywhere. But it’s a perspective thing.
You’re not more likely to be in danger there than here because the news reported something bad. Because a million bad things happen that don’t get reported in our own country.
I stand by this:
http://travelisfree.com/2015/03/11/the-fear-of-traveling-is-not-logical/
Drew – I love your blog. You and MileValue are the only ones I really enjoy anymore. That being said, I think your statistical view of risk is a bit off here.
The people killed in shootings in the US are overwhelmingly either (a) in a bad neighborhood or (b) involved with organized crime/drug trade. Yes, there are school shootings too but if you do the stats on how many students are in American schools, the risk is still substantially lower than being the victim of violence/terror in Egypt.
The people being targeted in Egypt are foreigners. If you can easily blend in, you might be at a lower risk. If you are obviously a foreigner, you should be prepared to take a high risk.
The markets work relatively well and the fact all of these properties are at rock bottom prices is an indication that demand is dropping fast. Go price out some terrorism insurance for Egypt travel and see what you come up with. It’s an indication of the risk one takes.
Yes, the risk is still below 1% but it’s one’s life. Humans are notoriously poor at intellectually working with probabilities that are very low (view them as 0%) or very high (view them as 100%) and constantly shocked when “it happens to them” (see: birth control).
First, the mass shootings in the US are not just in “bad neighborhoods” or with organized crime. That’s just not true.
Second, what foreigners are being targeted? I traveled all around the country without issues. What you mean to say, is that a single group or foreigners was targeted. In which case, odds are still worse than the US.
This is fact, murder rate is higher in the US. Just because you have one example of tourists doesn’t mean that this a trend.
Third, markets are terribly irrational, and so is the news.
We were in Thailand during the coup and tourism crashed and no tourists were harmed. Heck there was no violence at all, but tourism was eerily declined.
What it has to do with is not “market”, it has to do with media and fear. How much the media shows something terrible directly relates to the tourism. This is very different than violence.
Please read my fear mongering post –> http://travelisfree.com/2015/03/11/the-fear-of-traveling-is-not-logical/
These statistics, or lack of statistics, are absurd when you think about them. More planes have fallen out of the sky in SE Asia, but people still fly there.
Working with low numbers isn’t the point. Statistically you’re less safe in a car, but people still drive.
What’s happening is the perceived risk. i.e. “the only thing on the news about this country is something bad, therefore it must be really dangerous”. And you automatically know this isn’t true in the US even though there’s a mass shooting nearly everyday. If it was the only thing you saw about the US, you would be quite worried. But you know there are lots of safe people, and you’re one of them. Same with Egypt.
I agree, partly. I often travel by myself, often to places others are hesitant to go, and I also organize groups. When people ask about safety, my standard reply is, “There is no place in the world that is 100% safe. You could stay under your bed at home, but then there might be an earthquake. Your time with me will probably be your safest weeks of the year, since you won’t be driving the streets and highways around the city, which are statistically much more dangerous.”
That said, I think you’re vastly overdramatizing the risks in the U.S. to make a point. I also have worked in organizing student exchange programs with Mexico. It’s true that American parents worry, but though it seems ironic from our viewpoint north of the border, many Mexican parents are also quite afraid to send their kids to the U.S. on a study program, because they’ve heard so much about the violence in the U.S. Statistically, if you’re not looking for trouble – and don’t operate in the milieu of people who do look for trouble – the chances of getting caught in a shooting here or there are exceedingly small. Still, I do believe much tighter gun restrictions are needed.
Another quality post!
However, flying over conflict zones is statistically proven to have become more and more risky now. Lot to do with the two MH flights although one was not even supposed to be on that route. If IS now has the power and means to plant explosives on an aircraft I would be extremely weary of security in countries that may be not be the best. I may just be paranoid. And yes I do live in the US. I guess it might be an example of getting too used to something (shootings) v something we consider extraordinary (blowing up a plane).
Egypt was supposed to be on my travel plans for early next year and all your posts were only reinforcing the decision. That went straight out of the window after the devastating news. As a newbie traveller, I have a lot other (safer) places to visit thankfully.
For the record, I didn’t fly over a conflict zone.
Glad you went, glad you stayed a long time, glad you didn’t worry too much about what the news and sheltered Americans say, and I’m glad you took advantage of all the insanely cheap and awesome point redemptions to be had. I also went for over a month earlier this year. Have commented on some of the other posts. A friend of mine didn’t come with me, partly b/c his parents highly disapproved of him going (and they were going to foot part of his budget)… Another friend who’s older and more independent came instead against his mothers advice and had a blast! Did you get out and do any tours? We did tons of stuff like 4 wheeling, dune buggies, summit Mount Sinai overnight hike (which they take you through Sinai late at night….w/a police escort and in a convoy, kind of wild but well worth it!), and lots of water tours as well… So much fun! Seriously had a blast.
Definitely recommend you to visit Alexandria for 2-5 days next time you go. That Hilton for 5k was one of the nicest by a long shot!
Your review was what I expected and bummed me out a bit. I was originally going to go for over 2 months but canceled a month of it off to spend more time w/my g/f…. part of the canceled itinerary was the Hilton Marsa Alam! Thought it looked a cut above the rest in the pictures and was stoked to try it! Glad you loved it.
All the news about Egypt right now makes me sad! Yes, they do have SERIOUS terrorism problems in the Sinai. They kill ALMOST 1,000 terrorists a year out there… literally, look it up. The numbers are pretty crazy. But to say that Egypt is dangerous to travel to is ridiculous. I’m afraid the news of the Russian flight though is going to topple their tourism #’s AGAIN to another low like after the revolution in 2011. Sad for Egypt 🙁 It’s such an amazing country with an unreal amount of historical and unique places to visit!
I genuinely don’t understand how even in light of the fact that they kill over 1000 tourists a year, you consider it “safe”?
Is that a joke? Until this plane, it was incredibly low. Like safer statistically than the US.
I’m pretty sure Vibhu was misquoting/misinterpreting David above who wrote that they [the Egyptian government] kill almost 1000 terrorists (not tourists). [I don’t claim to have researched the truth of David’s statement, I’m just pointing out where the discussion went off the tracks.]
1,000 tourists or 1,000 terrorists? David originally said 1,000 terrorists.
Ahh. Maybe if I could read. Thanks for the correction.
Getting this back to the hotels you reviewed for us, your praise for the Radisson Blu El Quseir is tempered by your reference to having to spend more on food there (modest as it was).
Checked my notes and I see I too have a 2 night reservation there, and I also see that even the “standard award nights” (at 9k per night) are supposed to come with “half board”:
PRICE: 9,000Gold Points® (average)Per night Tax included For 1 night(s) per room….
ROOM DESCRIPTION:
– +/- 32 square meters
– Private balcony or terrace with garden view
– Free Wireless High Speed Internet Access
– Half Board included ( Breakfast and Dinner ) at our main restaurant
Was this not offered to you? (the half board) Or did you not like the offerings at the main restaurant (which appears to include buffet options)?
If even this “half board” is included, then the deal gets even better. If so, I’m tempted to extend the existing reservation… Any clarification from what you experienced, Drew? (thanks)
Wow. That is a deal, as it’s a buffet every night at the main restaurant. At the time mine said breakfast and didn’t say anything about dinner. I definitely had to pay for dinner, and they definitely made it clear.
This appears to be new. So that’s awesome.
I mean. Those words were not there, so looks like dinner is included. And it makes sense, EVERYONE else there is all inclusive. It was like they had never seen someone without the AI bracelet, some of them asked me which meals I had, and I had to explain that it was just breakfast.
Again, it’s the most beautiful resort I saw, and you will never find a better use of CC points, especially if it comes with dinner. That’s $1,800 of spend on the CC card to get a free night.
I still would screenshot it just incase, lol. But certainly seems to be the thing now. If you’re old reservation doesn’t say it, I would make a booking the day before. Or if it’s not booked back from the bogo, you could just rebook.
I’d do more nights, especially since you have to spend an hour in the car from HRG.
Hey Drew,
Just staying at the Radisson Blu El Quseir. It is a great place, but the problem is transportation. They show some extortionary rates for just getting out of the complex.
All the transportation options are priced in Euros and they are looking for 10EU (185 EGP) for a roundtrip into Al Quseir, and 50EU (900 EGP) for a one-way to Hurghada airport. To give you a sense of prices, we got a limo service for 800 EGP from Luxor to El Quseir (at least 4 hours of driving) from a big travel agency. I was expecting a ride to Hurghada airport to be more like 300 EGP.
Just curious how you were able to get them to call you a local taxi (with local rates) when they dont seem willing to do it right now.
We were not expecting to get dinner included (based on your post) but dinner is included with our rewards stay. Funny how we would have gladly paid the $30 extra per day for dinner but they gauge us for $20 one time on transportation and it completely ruins our impression of the place.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
The Radisson Blu El Quseir has gone up to 15,000 points per night now (22.5k for premium).
Do they upgrade Gold or Plat status members (I’m Gold) to next category of room ?
Wasn’t aware that reward stays included dinner – perhaps just a special deal going on at the time ???
The low 9K price helped offset the (from your comments) outrageous on-site prices for food, drink & transportation. At 15k it isn’t at all acceptable. With no local options available they clearly have a monopoly & have decided to take advantage of that. Poor show. This has really put me off going here now.