When booking a flight with your miles, I used to think that I would just pick the best airline and thus, I paid no attention to which plane I would be on.
And it’s not that there isn’t a huge difference between airlines, in addition to that, there’s also a huge difference between some airplane set ups.
For example, we flew Thai Airways Business Class on a 747 and while the seats on the 747 completely flatten out, the angle was 45 degrees. It was very hard for me to sleep because I kept sliding out of my seat and into the aisle (since we were on the front row).
But if we had flown Thai Airways Business Class on an Airbus A380, we would have had completely lie flat beds. No angle.
This may sound like the ultimate case of first world problems. “I was sliding out of my lie flat business class bed, poor me”. But my point isn’t to complain about my awesome travel experience.
Instead my point is that if you are paying for business class, you might as well pick seats that will let you sleep. Similarly, Carrie and I have picked economy seats where the seating is 2-5-2. That to say, we got to sit alone together.
So let’s nerd out for one minute and talk about planes.
Note: I’ll be referencing SeatGuru.com a lot, as it can tell you everything you need to know!
Planes
There are two big airplane companies. AirBus and Boeing.
Boeing has the 747, which is a massive double decker plane. They also have the 777. The 777-300 series is extremely long, and the 777-200 is similar. These are their main longhauls, although you sometimes see the 767 thrown in on flights that aren’t massively long.
Airbus has the A380 (the “A” stands for “Airbus”) which is an enormous double decker plane. You know it when you see it. And it’s newer. Just for reference, the first A380 flight was in 2005, and the first 777 flight was in 1994. The first 747 flight was 1969!
Because this plane is new and giant, it has the best longhaul seats, handsdown. Airbus also has an A330 that does some longhauls, but it’s not nearly as big.
Figuring out what plane you’re booking
If you’re booking on the phone ask. If online it should say in the flight description.
Figuring out the best seat
Economy:
Honestly, there aren’t huge differences in economy from plane to plane. But still, in general I prefer foreign airlines. If I got to choose between an Asian airline like Cathay Pacific or American Airlines I would 100% for sure choose Cathay. Better food, better service, better experience.
SeatGuru does tell you a “seats pitch”. This is how far away one seat is from that same point on the seat one row ahead.
I also look at the format of the seats. For instance with AA’s 777 planes, you have 2-5-2 like I said, which is better for a couple. At least we prefer it. If you’re not sure what I mean by 2-5-2, that’s the arrangement of seat groups, separated by aisles.
Business Class:
There can be a huge difference even on the same airline between business class products. And generally, the bigger and the newer the plane the better.
But if you have a few options just google image search the name of the airline and the class you want. Even do the specific plane. For instance google “Singapore Airlines 777 Business Class” and you’ll get a good idea of what’s going on.
In my opinion, the biggest priority with business class is having a lieflat bed.
To find this, head over to seatguru.com again. Browse airlines and select the Airline you want, and then the plane model. Generally speaking, the different seating versions between the same type of plane are slight. But still try to pick the right type of plane.
To the right of the plane you’ll see the seating details as shown in the picture. This is an example of Asiana Airlines, which is a great airline but their business class doesn’t have a lie flat bed, instead they have angle-flat seats.
No angle!
Thai and Asiana also have recliner seats. These are worse! These are also inadequate. If you have the option in your route, always find “flat bed seats”.
First Class:
All international First Class seats should have flat bed seats, so you may one-up your value by finding “suites”.
Here’s an image from Malaysia Airlines’ A380. Generally “suites” are found on A380s as they are newer and bigger. Suites can be found on Cathay, Qantas, Lufthansa and more.
However, I’ve noticed that they don’t list Thai’s First Class on the A380s as a suite even though it kind of is. Right?
Pictures
Another feature of SeatGuru is the submitted photos. On the right side a little lower down on a plane’s page you can see photos. Often you can see the business class or first class for a particular plane and see how spacious or flat the seat/bed may be. Just use the captions to know what seat you’re looking at.
Conclusion
I always google or use seatguru to find any business class seat I book. If I’m paying extra for business class, I want a lie flat, and want to sleep well. But it would be a much longer post to go over every airline product. Instead, I want to give the basics of what to look for. And for me the lie flat bed = sleep.
If you have any experience or advice with picking better seats, please comment below! Especially if you advice for picking planes with better economy seats, as there are more people flying economy and it’s harder to tell the difference. By seat pitch?
Thanks for sharing this. Most of my experience has been on economy seats but I never thought to look for planes that had a 2-5-2 configuration instead of a 3-3 config.
I had seen seatguru.com before – it definitely seems like the way to go for trying to figure out what type of plane you’ll be on
For sure. It gets complicated when you are trying to figure out if it’s a new version of a 747 or something. Like comparing the seat chart on the site to seat guru, trying to find the differences.
Either way, seat guru is pretty awesome.
My wife and I flew in a 2-5-2 on an international flight and not having to share our space with a third person was fantastic. Never thought to search for 2-5-2 layouts before booking so thank you so much for the great advice!
Thanks. Yea, I think it’s standard on the American 772 – which they use internationally a lot. The new 773 is 3-4-3. So, definitely enjoy the not having to climb over a stranger… or them crawl over me.
That is very interesting! I would have never thought to check on which plane is being used. I’m new to the whole miles game and am planning my destination wedding for next June to Santorini, Greece. I know there arent any direct flights to Santorini so my goal is to start racking up points on an airline that will get us to Italy or Turkey (close enough) first class. Do you have any recommendations on which alliance program I should focus on? Thank you!
Well, US Airways on Lufthansa or something, that way you don’t pay fuel surcharges.
And use AA miles on AA’s new first class, that would be nice.
Either one of those, would be my top choice. Both transfer from the SPG card and have their own card. AA might allow you to rack up miles quicker since they have more cards.
I also have a post on best miles to use for Europe. It may be helpful – http://travelisfree.com/2013/10/28/best-miles-to-europe/
Cheers,
Drew
Another way to research a particular flight is by Googling something like “Asiana First Class trip report Seoul New York” which will return whether any bloggers have created a trip report about this flight.
Bloggers tend to upload tons of photos of their flight including food and drink menus, cabin design, seat layout upright and lie flat, lounge areas, bathrooms, etc. These reports will have a lot more detail than what you’ll find on SeatGuru.
SeatGuru is still my go-to first stop, but next I’ll check to see if any blogger has written about the specific route and airline I’m interested in.
For sure, or google images for those who don’t like to read. :-p
Your post had an unintended beneficial side effect. It inspired me to work on seating for an upcoming award trip on United. To my dismay I found the itinerary had been mangled – due to flight schedule changes I now had one misconnect and another 40-hour layover (where I didn’t want one) on a one-way schedule. And they never notified me.
Luckily I was able to go the website and find an acceptable alternate routing with space available, then call MileagePlus and get the itinerary switched. I’ve had problems before with United making unacceptable changes and failing to notify. A reminder to always check future bookings periodically.
Now to work on those new seat assignments.
Yea, some friends had their United ticket changed just last week and United never told them. So the wife was routed through Chicago or something and he through Houston. So when she missed her leg, her flight was cancelled.
They fixed it, but they were delayed a day. So odd…
But yea, I need to start checking my tickets more often. Aren’t there tools for that. Anything that keeps track of your tickets?
This is a late comment as I am catching up after burning my United miles. But while Seat Guru is good, but it can be very incorrect on some carriers, and foreign carriers especially from what I understand. Thai is mentioned often on Aussie FF that seatguru is way off. So it doesn’t hurt to cross reference and check the FT forums.