Venice is a short hop from Milan on the east coast and is one of the most unique cities I’ve ever seen. However interesting you can imagine Venice to be, it’s actually that interesting. Not a let down destination at all. I mean, take a very old Italian city on an island where canals are used like streets. People’s front doors go to boats. And it has the grandeur of other Italian cities, plazas and churches.
And while I’ve written about other favorite destinations; Bali, Sri Lanka, Hallstatt, New Zealand, Vienna, and SE Asia in general… I’ve only mentioned Venice in passing. But truly, Venice is deserving of my time. And a miles and points twist.
Tip 1: You must stay in Venice and not “Mestre”
When you pull up hotels online you’ll see options for both. Mestre is where you park your car and get the bus to the little island of Venice. Even if it’s slightly cheaper to stay in Mestre, trust me, it’s crap and you’ll make back your money by not having to pay for the commute and then walking an hour to get to the east side of Venice, the downtown sites. And if you were paying for a boat taxi, oh my.
Tip 2: You probably want to set “Piazza San Marco” as your downtown center point
That’s one of the biggest prettiest attractions in a beautiful area, and with views of Saint Maria of Salute Basilica. Although, really anywhere is beautiful. But the west side is more of a commuters’ area.
The above screenshot is from Hipmunk’s map, which I talked about in 6 Tips and Tools for Booking Hotels.
Tip 3: The Best Points Hotel is by far Choice
There are few points hotel options for Venice, and of the few, they aren’t that great. The Hilton is on a different island, the Marriott “Autograph” is on another, and SPG hotels are absurdly priced. 20,000 SPG points is a lot considering you earn 2 points per dollar for paid stays and that could be 25,000 AA miles (A domestic roundtrip or a oneway to Europe).
The best option, believe it or not is Choice, and it still provides luxury. So there are two sets of very different price points, first I’ll give the cheap (and best) option.
For 10,000 Choice points (or 3,333 Chase points (I’ll talk about that in a minute)) you can stay at the Comfort Hotel Diana. (The other hotel is in Mestre, btw, so not an option).
A phenomenal location with a positive rating on TA. And in peak season the rates can be really, high. Here it’s $100 in off-peak, although regularly I think it’s $150. Anyways, it’s a great deal.
The other lesser known option for Choice points, is the Preferred Hotel Group (for which I have a map of Preferred Hotel Group properties here). This way, you can book the Hotel Monaco & Grand Canal, which has an awesome location, for 60,000 Choice points. However, I don’t think it’s worth the 6x.
To transfer from Chase to Choice you need to do it via the Amtrak credit card (or Amtrak status) and can do 25,000 Amtrak points to Choice a year. Except the transfer ratio is 1:3, so you get 75,000 Choice points a year from 25,000 Chase Ultimate Rewards points. In other words 20,000 Chase points could get you 6 nights at the Comfort Hotel Diana. A great deal!
Getting the Amtrak card doesn’t sound too appealing for most, but it’s a long term play as it has no annual fee.
For more information read my post on Best Use of Amtrak Points, or probably more relevant, the post on Best Use of Choice Rewards Points.
Tip 4: AirBNB can be a great option
Now I’m not qualified to get into family travel tips, but Airbnb is hard to beat with a group. And the prices can be quite reasonable. There were four of us on our Venice trip and in hindsight, we should have just split an Airbnb. Considering that Airbnb can provide more for four people for much less than the 3 star hotels costing nearly double the price, it would have been a no-brainer. You live you learn. Plus, there are many great spots close to the main plaza.
While this may not seem like a points option, Airbnb expenses can be reimbursed as travel expenses with the Barclay World Arrival Plus card.
Tip 5: Get a good map
If you’re going to be navigating through Venice on foot, trust me, it can get confusing. I have a great sense of direction, but even with a map I ended up down alleys unintentionally.
Using Miles is easy
All the major airline alliances have flights to Venice. Getting there with miles is actually pretty easy despite it being a small place.
See the recent post: Cheapest Miles to Europe
That post has a list of all airline prices in order of price for roundtrips to Europe.
Tip 6: Avios for other nearby destinations
Most people want to do other places in Europe and tack on a trip to Venice, or do Italy and tack on a place to something else. In this case, Avios would allow you to book a super cheap oneway, and then you can open-jaw the rest of the trip. So fly into Venice and out of Madrid… something like that.
So the routes are:
- For 4,500 Avios: Venice to Stuttgart, Dusseldorf, and Berlin
- For 7,500 Avios: Venice to Madrid, and London
Amex MR, Chase UR, and SPG points all transfer 1:1 to Avios.
Tip 7: Lufthansa’s Mileage Bargains
You may also find some Intra Europe. However, I don’t see any flights to Venice in particular for 10,000 miles roundtrip in Europe, but it always changes.
Not sure if you’ve heard of Mileage Bargains before, but Lufthansa does half priced tickets as kind of a last minute sale. However, the fuel surcharges make it unjustifiable from the US. But within Europe, they really aren’t that bad.
1) go to MileageBargain.com (and you may have to select english in the top right)
2) In the top right select “Italy” in the “Flights From” box
3) Right above the results, the first box should say “All Regions”, and change it to “Europe”
Sometimes you’ll have Venice flights, but most of the time there are 10k roundtrips to Florence, Milan, and Rome.
Conlcusion
Hop an Avios flight over to Venice for 4,500 points. Get a hotel downtown, possibly for ~3,333 Chase points a night. Then open-jaw so you fly home out of Venice.
Truly, Venice is worth a visit. Italy is a wonderful and interesting country to visit in the first place, and Venice adds a lot to that. It is definitely more touristy feeling than say Vienna or Budapest, but people actually live there… that’s how the fresh Italian food gets made. 😀
Hi Drew, thanks for this timely post. My wife and I are taking my adult son with us to Italy for 2 weeks at the start of our 3 month around the world trip. Is Comfort Hotel Diana in Venice leaving Choice Hotels? They don’t seem to be taking any reservations after the end of March! I was hoping to grab a couple of nights in June with points when the booking window opens. Might have to look into airbnb a little closer.
Wow, a 3 month round the world trip with your soon. That sounds epic! Maybe we’ll cross paths.
Not heard anything about the hotel leaving choice, but unfortunately you can’t make award stays more than 60 days out. Which is a big bummer. My advice would be to 1) status match. And 2) Book a refundable cash room (or two) for the nights you want, to secure a standard room until 60 days out. Then cancel and rebook on points.
Airbnb is great, you get 25 off when you get referred.
Or you could refer your soon and potentially he’ll get $25 off and you’ll get $25 toward future bookings. Almost like a $50 discount. Although, the choice route is a good route if you have plenty of points.
Hi Drew, the thing is the “Comfort Hotel Diana” in Venice won’t take any reservations paid or otherwise after the end of March. That’s why I think they might be leaving Choice hotels.
Also unfortunately my Son will only be with us the first 2 weeks of our 3+ month trip as he has to return to work. My wife and I are very excited about our trip LAS-DFW-LON-FCO,ZRH-LCY,LHR-CPT-JNB-VFA-JNB-GRU-EZE-MEL-ASP-SYD-CHC-SYD-BKK-HKG-LAX-LAS all the long hauls in 1st or Biz class. All booked with miles- now just need to figure out how to sleep cheap.
Staying at the Hotel Diana for two nights next week based on your previous mention of it and my subsequent tripadvisor research. I am looking forward to it and any other good tips people may have about Venice.
Hi Kim, would you please ask at the Hotel Diana if they are leaving “Choice Hotels” in April and leave a message back here? Thank you very much , John & Robin
I would add, walk a couple blocks from the main pedestrian street, and you will find beautiful canals and the authentic Venetian atmosphere, without the crowds and touristy crap.
Go to a locals bar and have a Spritz!
Spritz? I think I missed on whatever this is. I assume a drink, lol
dude, you missed out – delicious! and usually only about 1.50E!
Anybody had any luck downgrading to an Amtrak card?
Man, that is a great question! I wish I thought to ask recently… Very curious if anyone knows.
+1
Wow, that is such a good idea. (@William, you were probably hoping for some actual answers rather than all of us telling you what a great question that is. 🙂 Here’s hoping someone after me answers. Otherwise, I might have to find out by trying it myself. )
+1!
Just called Chase Jan 11, 2015. Wanted to cancel a Sapphire with a fee. THey could only downgrade me to other Chase products, like Sapphire with no fee, Slate and Freedom. They said the Amtrak and Southwest cards were separate, because of the outside relationship. So, the answer is “no”, you can’t downgrade.
Stayed at Comfort Diana for a few nights last fall over Thanksgiving. It’s a typical European city hotel – small rooms, tiny hallways – but the location is freaking amazing. Breakfast was stingy, but whatever, I’m not in Italy to eat one free croissant anyway. The price used to be 8k, but even at 10k it’s a freaking great bargain.
I wholeheartedly endorse the AirBnB option for Venice. Our family of 4 did that for 3 nights over New Year’s last year, and we wound up paying around $175 a night for a really nice 2-BR 2-BA apartment a stone’s throw from one of the major squares.
For families, an apartment is way better than a tiny hotel room, plus you can prepare all your meals a lot more cheaply than eating out.
I would partially disagree with tip 6. Oftentimes, Ryanair is a better option than Avios. Currently, Frankfurt to Venice on November 26 is available for $25 one way and 0 miles. In your Avios airberlin example, Stuttgart to Venice is $25 and 4,500 Avios. I know it isn’t an apples to apples comparison, but the principle still holds that Ryanair can sometimes be better than Avios.
It especially can be a good deal if you use Barclaycard Arrival miles or cash back earned from credit card spending to buy the Ryanair ticket.
We spent 1 night at the Comfort Diana last month pre-cruise. It was superb value, it would have cost over 300 Euros on our date (maybe because 4 ships in port)? Beware of the restaurants in the surrounding area. They try to lure you in with cheap set meals but even soft drinks are 5 Euros and they won’t serve free ice water like people from the USA & Australia are used to.