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7 (practical) Stopovers With United Miles

Drew MacomberbyDrew Macomber
February 4, 2019
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Today is 7 Practical Stopover Trips, and Wed. is 7 Crazy Stopover trips.

Today’s version is practical because it’s a complete roundtrip without open-jaws. The post Wed has the crazy open-jaws.

The reason to break it into two parts is because, as I showed in my post last week on The Roundtrip Hack, there are some crazy cool tricks you can do with open-jaws. For even more context, check out my other United post from last week, The New United Stopover and Routing Rules.

 

But today’s version isn’t any less awesome. There are some trips I’m relieved to still be able to book.

You may notice that these examples get progressively less practical… but they’re still roundtrips and might spark your imagination.

1) US to Anywhere with 1 stopover in that region

Understand that you can do a roundtrip from the US to anywhere, and have a stopover in that region.

I’ve give three examples, as part of #1.

 

1a) US to Europe with a stopover = 60k/140k/220k

Chicago to Paris to Rome to Chicago = 60,000 United miles

 

1b) US to SE Asia with a stopover = 80k/160k/260k

New York to Hong Kong to Bali to New York = 80,000 United miles

 

1c) US to Africa with a stopover = 80k/160k/260k

Chicago to Nairobi, Kenya, to Cape Town, South Africa to Chicago = 80,000 United miles

 

I want to reiterate that these are good and possible routes.

 

2) US to Northern South America, and the Galapagos

A roundtrip from the US to Northern South America is 40k/70k/90k in United miles.

Then include a stopover within Northern South America, and this is a fantastic deal.

Really what I mean is that I really want to go to the Galapagos. But why not also pair it with a trip to Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Suriname, French Guiana, Guyana or somewhere else in Ecuador!?

You could do Machu Picchu and the Galapagos on one ticket, for 40,000 miles.

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Neither Cusco, nor the Galapagos are the easiest to get flights to or from, but I certainly found it bookable with flexible dates.

Plus, it’s just an example, you could do this anywhere within the region.

 

Houston to Cusco, Peru, to the Galapagos islands, to Houston = 40k

 

Machu Picchu is a special place… but we’ve already been so I’d probably opt for the Galapagos and somewhere on mainland Ecuador or somewhere new in Colombia.

 

Also, note that for an extra 10,000 miles you can add an extra stop. So you could do the Galapagos, mainland Ecuador, Peru, and then return home, and it would only be 50,000 miles!

 

3) The Latin Hopper

Once upon a time I wrote about this ticket, and it’s still alive and well. It’s basically a variation of the last ticket, but you start from either Central America or the Caribbean.

Why?

Because it’s only 10,000 miles to go to other regions within Mexico, Central America, Caribbean, and Northern South America. Any flight to and from, or within one of those regions is only 10,000 miles.

 

Here’s an example.

San Juan, Puerto Rico – Bogota, Colombia – Lima, Peru – Aruba = 20,000 United miles

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It would look like this (minus connections):

You could do Cuzco, or the Galapagos, and you could start and end anywhere in Central America or the Caribbean. I just chose San Juan and Aruba because it’s similar to a flight we did years ago, but there are tons of combinations possible!

 

How I would do it.

Actually, I looked at booking this exact ticket: Belize – Quito – Galapagos – Roatan, Honduras.

Those would all be new places to me, a lot of beautiful places, and there’s a cheap Choice hotel on Roatan, only 6,000 points a night. See Best Use of Choice Points.

I looked, and there’s actually decent options in the Galapagos for airbnb. Plus, airbnb is still giving the extra $50 ontop of the increased $35 referral. See details here.

 

How?

I proposed that with the Latin Hopper one could take a cheap flight down to the Caribbean, Mexico, or Central America. There are lots of cheap flights with Southwest points, BA Avios, and more.

Then you can start from one of these islands, and hop around South America.

You’ll likely pay just a little more than a roundtrip to South America, but you’ll see 4 destinations!

 

4) Hawaii to Micronesia

This is a trip visiting three Pacific islands for 50,000 United Miles, you have direct flights, and the taxes and fees come out to $27.66 total!

This is a great trip, and the fact that I haven’t been to Yap or Palau still is killing me. Beat me to it!

Of course, you could also do this trip starting from the US, it will just cost 70k miles instead of 50k.

So the advantage of starting in Hawaii is if you live on the west coast (cheap flight with Avios), live in Hawaii, or like deals. Because the business class Hawaii to Oceania on United is only 80k miles roundtrip. Not much more! It would be 130k from the US.

Anyways, here’s the route.

 

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HNL – YAP – GUM – HNL = 50k/80k

Note that if I wanted to add Yap to Palau, a second stopover, I could for 12,500 extra miles.

 

5) Japan to Micronesia

Japan to Oceania is only 12,500 United miles each way. Add the stopover, and you got an amazing add on to a trip to Japan for 25,000 miles.

Again, you could do 2 islands, particularly Guam, Yap, or Palau.

Yap and Palau are relatively farflung islands and you could see them both for 25,000 miles.

 

Think about it. Next April you could do the off-peak award using Alaska miles (flying American Airlines) to Japan and book a ticket for 25,000 miles each way to/from Japan. So 50k for a roundtrip ticket to Japan, and then add on Yap and Palau (or Guam) for another 25,000 United miles.

That’s quite a trip for 75k.

 

Plus you could do an open-jaw so you return back to Kyoto, or Okinawa, or anywhere in Japan. So you’d see two cities in Japan, and two islands in Micronesia.

 

6) SE Asia to Australia / New Zealand

SE Asia to Australia (or vice versa) is only 17,500 United miles. This means that you can do a roundtrip, going from one to the other for only 35,000 miles, and get a free segment.

Plus, you could open-jaw so your flight returns to a different part of SE Asia (or Australia/New Zealand).

 

i.e. Bangkok – Sydney – Auckland – Singapore = 35,000 United miels

 

7) Northern Africa to South/Central Africa

Northern Africa includes Algeria, Morocco, Canary Islands, Tunisia, Libya.

But most importantly, there are programs that consider the Canary Islands and Morocco as part of Europe!

  • AA considers Canary Islands as Europe
  • FlyingBlue considers Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Canary Islands as Europe
  • Singapore considers Canary Islands as Europe

With the right set up, this could actually be a cheap way to see a lot of Africa.

 

Route:

LPA – ADD – CPT – LPA = 35k/70k

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The reason I chose business for this example is because 1) availabity wasn’t great, and 2) because it’s a lot flying.

Let me show you what the actual route turned out to be:

Of course, you can get more direct routes than that, but I thought it was interesting for two reasons. 1) It’s just an odd route to fly. And 2) I think I found a cheaper way to go from Africa to Europe.

Normally South/Central Africa to Europe  is 30k/55k/100k for a oneway. But here, with South Africa to Northern Africa (LPA), it prices 17.5k/35k/50k. That is a lot cheaper, and yet it routes through Europe. I could get it to route via Europe on Turkish, Brussels, or Aer Lingus.

Which brings me to the subject of tomorrow’s newsletter.

 

Newsletter tomorrow

By the way, tomorrow I’ll be sending out a newsletter on United routes that are a little odd.

If you’re not signed up already, you can do so at the top of the page.

 

Conclusion

A lot of these flights are all pretty similar to the flights bookable before United’s big routing changes on Oct 6.

Still, I want to show what flights are actually bookable. In other words, spend less time talking about routing rules and how the computer/website works, and more time talking about flying to actual places.

Some of the flights I’ll talk about in two days will be a little different than flights you could book previously. But still the focus will be on actual examples… but next time with open-jaws.

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Comments 19

  1. Trevor Thorpe says:
    4 years ago

    Love that you went the “examples” route. It’s always good to see what the rules look like in practice. My last post (yesterday) revisited your latin hopper, which I’ve been wanting to do for years now! I found that it’s possible to hit 4 Latin American capital cities for 20k miles, or 10k more to add 10hrs of business class. I even added a detour to Cusco for Machu Picchu using 4.5k Avios. My route also follows your lead about setting up the Southwest CP positioning flights. Thanks for the inspiration!

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  2. Jesse says:
    4 years ago

    Great stuff, Drew. I’m particularly interested in the route around Africa. Seems like you could do it in reverse and/or skip the last leg back to LPA. This would allow you to grab a cheaper miles fare from Europe back to the USA, without being restricted to the airlines that include the Canary Islands within Europe.

    Palau is on our list too… fingers crossed that Jellyfish Lake rebounds from El Nino!

    Reply
  3. Boris Minevich says:
    4 years ago

    Drew, nice boomie on the way back in the last example. Almost 50% savings for economy.

    Reply
  4. Geoff says:
    4 years ago

    Another fabulous piece. Many thanks.
    At the risk of dumbing down these great posts, would starting a trip at a non-hub destroy(by adding a same region leg at the beginning or end) the value of these changes?

    Reply
  5. Jason Paul says:
    4 years ago

    Love seeing these types of posts again that put you at the top of the blogging game! Most educational blog out there!!!

    Reply
  6. Mo says:
    4 years ago

    Hey what about having a free stopover in business where are the sweet spots?

    Reply
  7. newbie says:
    4 years ago

    Great stuff Drew, It would be nice to have some odd and interesting route for combining central Asia and Southern Asia from Main land as I am looking to get that done this year..

    Good to see things are not dead as we all thoughts. Thanks to you …

    Reply
  8. Hal says:
    4 years ago

    Thanks for including the Micronesia ideas. I live in PNI and I’ve been trying to find the best trip on the least amount of miles. I need to play around with the dates and destinations now. Thanks.

    Reply
  9. Waylo says:
    4 years ago

    The Africa part is mind-blowing. Some of the intra-Africa flights are really expensive. So, a great use of miles even in Economy.

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  10. Alan says:
    4 years ago

    Didnt know about the ex-africa hidden city aspect!

    Reply
  11. Mickey says:
    4 years ago

    http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2016/10/31/united-stopover-rules/

    Funny how others start writing about United routing tricks all of a sudden right when you’ve done all the research and published your post– and of course not even an H/T.

    Keep up the good work.

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    • Trevor Thorpe says:
      4 years ago

      Not an OMAAT fan, but he did link to Travel Is Free in the post you referenced. Will probably result in a lot of good publicity for Drew and once people see this site, they’ll probably make the switch 😉

    • Raj says:
      4 years ago

      I had first read about these “tricks” at Point me to the Plane. So I have no idea who came up with these first, but that site definitely published them first.

      http://pointmetotheplane.boardingarea.com/2016/10/10/united-routing-rules-excursionist-perk-2016/

    • Jesse says:
      4 years ago

      It doesn’t particularly matter who published them first. I wrote this post (https://loopholetravel.com/2016/10/06/new-united-routing-rules-understanding-the-excursionist-perk/)the day after the rule change was implemented. It talks about some creative ways to apply the excursionist perk.

      But Drew CLEARLY has been a leader in the award travel game for years. There is no way he poached these strategies from other sites. It’s just nice to see that a lot of people can think creatively and find sweet spots in the new system.

  12. DaveS says:
    4 years ago

    I knew when United came out with their new rules, we’d see a thorough and helpful discussion here pointing us to the opportunities. Thanks for your work in developing the definitive guides to the program. I’m betting we’ll be seeing something yet on the 23-hour layover options we can still get by choosing carefully our departure and arrival cities and flight options, even though the wide open use of multi city for creating those is gone.

    Reply
  13. Tiffany Ziomek says:
    4 years ago

    I have a question about the Latin hopper. Say you wanted to do Belize, Dominican and Turks and Caicos. Could it be done? Would love your help!

    Reply
  14. LAC LONG QUAN says:
    4 years ago

    Could you provide a list of “same Region” where open jaw is free. Thank you.

    Reply
  15. MarQ says:
    4 years ago

    What’s the point of all the boomerang routings: to spend more time on a plane in biz class or are we talking the “unseen metropolis” thing?

    Reply
  16. Bethany says:
    4 years ago

    Hi, Drew! Long time reader, first time commenter.

    I’m trying to get from the USA to Australia and New Zealand with United points. (Ideally JAX>AKL>SYD>JAX.) From everything I’ve read, that should be doable using one of them as a stopover, as they are the same region. But United won’t let me book anything after the first leg no matter how I route it. I checked separately and there’s plenty of award availability going between the two both ways.

    Any idea what’s going wrong? Am I reading the rules wrong, or perhaps are NZ and Aus excluded from the typical rules? Do I need to call United after all?

    Thanks!

    Reply

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