I’ve been taking note of the common questions I get about IHG, and I get a lot since I live in IHG hotels from time to time. Hopefully this post answers all the questions left out in the Complete Guide to IHG Rewards points.
Normally I shy away from “is it worth it?” kinds of questions, but that seems to be what people ask. So here are a number of questions I get and my “no, it’s not worth it” answers. :-p
Canceling IHG Rewards Nights
IHG states the cancelation date when looking at rooms, when booking, and on the confirmation page. It’s always based on local time, and it’s usually something like 4pm the day before. If you cancel before then, you get all your points back.
In the rare event that it’s earlier than a few days, I make a note in my calendar.
Booking & Canceling IHG Free Nights Certs
Booking a free night cert is nearly the same as booking a hotel with points. The difference is that you need to find the free night page and then click book.
You have to log in, go to my acccount, and on the left you’ll see “free nights”.
Under free nights you’ll see how many nights you have (usually one from the credit card), expiration, and a button to book. From there it’s just like a normal rewards night booking process.
Cancelations work the same as rewards nights. If you cancel before the deadline, the free night instantly goes right back into your account.
What’s the value of IHG points?
I hate giving definitive values on points, so I’ll compromise.
The value of IHG points is whatever is lower: the amount it cost to buy them, or the cash alternative (doesn’t have to be same hotel).
You can constantly buy IHG points at 0.575 cents a point. This is because IHG sells their points with a 100% bonus, multiple times a year. So if you bought it at that rate, you could book at a 25,000 point hotel at roughly $144.
$144 for a 25,000 point hotel is a terrible deal. Really bad. It’s probably more than the cash rate and you wouldn’t be earning points. On PointBreaks it can be a good deal.
Anyways, I don’t see how your points could be “worth” more than the rate at which you can buy them… and I also see this as useless a “mind exercise” to real application as angry birds is to real life application. Just because you’re thinking doesn’t mean it’s productive.
Is Ambassador status worth it?
Not usually, but it depends.
If you’re not familiar, check out Explaining IHG’s Status System. But in short, it is a worthless status that is only good at InterContinental hotels.
Ambassador status costs you $200 (or sometimes 32,000 points).
Ambassador status gets you:
- BOGO (buy one get one free) weekend certificate for paid nights
- Guaranteed Upgrade
- 5,000 points
- A bunch of useless things like free water and fruit, movies, a newspaper (likely free online), and a crappy gift I usually leave behind.
Why these things are worthless
BOGO weekend cert – this is actually useful, but it’s still not as useful as it claims. In short, you have to book the BOGO rate, which is higher than the best flexible rate, and way higher than advanced purchase rates or AAA rates. And you only get one.
Guaranteed upgrade – This is one category type, and as I’ve mentioned before, I’ve seen IC hotels have tons and tons of room categories with minor differences. So even if it were multiple category upgrades instead of one, it would likely still be useless. Go from a “Standard room” to a “Classic room”, to a “Deluxe room”, to an “Executive room”, and still not get anything useful like lounge access or a suite.
Heck, you could still add “views” to the room title.
I think Ambassador status is really bad at delivering value, and decent at getting people to pay for something they won’t use.
After all, IHG is the only hotel chain which doesn’t give breakfast or lounge access as a benefit to any status. And remember, Ambassador (and RA) status is the only status that only works 4% of the time – meaning, Ambassador status only works at InterContinental Hotels, which is a small part of the IHG chain in terms of number of hotels. And remember, it’s the only hotel chain not to give benefits on award nights. Oh, and the status lasts 12 months, instead of the possible 24 months like other chains.
I mean… no, it’s not worth it.
Getting 10% back for renewing Ambassador status?
When you have been an Ambassador for a year they send a renewal offer, and normally it’s $150 to renew your status and you get the BOGO and 5,000 points again.
However, sometimes people are offered a 10% rebate of the points they used in the last 12 months when they renew for $200. Plus, you get 15,000 points.
It really depends on 1) if you already like Ambassador status, and 2) how many points 10% would get you.
For me, I don’t value Ambassador status more than $50, but 10% points would be a big chunk of points. For me, unfortunately Carrie’s account got more use, and I’d only get 10,000 points. Which means I’d get 10,000 points (from the 10%), 15,000 (for the $200 renewal bonus), and 5,000 (as an Ambassador benefit). 30,000 points, in my example.
For me, I’m on the fence but it seems barely worth it. After all 30,000 points for $200 is still $33 a night on PointBreaks, plus I’d get the BOGO.
Do you get upgrades on award nights?
Upgrades with Ambassador status on award nights?
In my experience, it’s been yes. Never meaningful, but I get an upgrade.
Upgrade with platinum status?
I mean… you really really need to not expect anything at all with IHG statuses. Very very rarely do I find a hotel like the Crowne Plaza Bangkok which gives breakfast and lounge access to Platinum members. Very rarely, and as someone who has spent hundreds of nights in IHG hotels… I feel like I would know. It happens, but don’t count on it.
Can you use IHG points for upgrades?
No. If you care about upgrades, check out Hyatt (or the Complete Guide to Hyatt Rewards).
Does IHG have a 5th night free?
No. But the credit card gives 10% of points used back… and to me that’s just as good as 5th night free given that most of my stays aren’t even 4 nights long.
Is it worth it to buy IHG points with a 100% bonus?
No, except in rare examples.
You will almost always pay more this way than if you just booked a cash rate that earns points.
And even the rare examples where it’s break even, you’re passing up earning potentially lots of points via the promotions.
Buying points can be worth it for PointBreaks in theory.
PointBreaks is a list of hotels for 5,000 points a night, and it can come out less than $30 a night. A great deal at some hotels. The problem is that you can’t predict what hotels are going to be on this bi-monthly list. So buying speculatively can come back to bite you if you end up using the points at a hotel when it costs you more.
Any thoughts on IHG buying Kimpton?
My first reaction was that IHG would make Kimpton a bland corporate hotel if IHG management takes over, which is likely. Like an exciting and expensive acquisition of a tech company by Yahoo… and then 10 months later the company doesn’t exist. And in terms of corporate blandness, IHG takes the cake.
That being said, I don’t spend any time thinking about it. I can’t use or earn points at Kimptons yet, so there’s no news since the announcement. Just nothing to think about it.
Conclusion
I hope this answers the rest of the questions, and again, if you’re interested in the actual ground rules of IHG, you need to check out the Complete Guide to IHG Rewards.
Do you still use codes to increase points on paid stays? It seems that opportunity went away. Also any chance of a walk through of how you optimize BRG’s with IHG?
I actually had that on my list of FAQ and took it off. So, kinda funny it’s the first question. But no harm in answering, I guess.
Promo codes do have some risk. So I think you can minimize risk a few ways. 1) Only use on an empty status-less account. 2) Only use promo codes that come with an explanation that matches your account. For example, if it says for platinum status, and you have platinum status, there shouldn’t be harming in using it.
I don’t “optimize” BRGs really. I follow the rules. I don’t book back to back with Carrie and I’s account… I just do one (per 7 days or 50 miles). I hope that answers your question.
For what it’s worth, I stay at IHG in Spain a lot (mainly Mardid) and they seem stunned every time I am there that a platinum status member is staying with them and every time except for once (been there 20ish times in the past 3 years) I have been upgraded to the biggest room they have.
It’s not like a mega suite or anything, but it’s a pretty nice room and a great view, so I can’t complain too much.
Anywhere else with IHG you’re right, it’s been super hit and miss with getting anything for being platinum, and sadly, miss seems to win out the most.
There are always hotels that treat you special for being Platinum. Asia is generally where I get the most upgrades. But most of the time I don’t think they notice. But it’s just so easy to get. I get annoyed on TripAdvisor when I read negative reviews that say, “the intercontinental doesn’t respect platinum members, their highest status… yada yada, I didn’t get a suite”.
I just want people to have realistic expectations. You can get the status from a credit card, status matching, the fast track, etc…
Agree 100%. I expect nothing so when I get anything it pretty much makes the stay that much better haha.
jist curious, which Madrid IHG are you referring to?
Which IHG in Madrid gets you these benefits?
Drew,
Thanks for the good recap. I would just point out that often, but not always, does that canceled free night award go back into your account. Always check after canceling that it actually has gone back into the account — sometimes it has not for me and then a call to the call center fixes the issue.
Weird. So I have never had that problem, but I will say that I always check as soon as I cancel. I do think one time it was delayed… but yea, not something I want to go missing.
I bought amb status for the first time because we have 10 days at several IC properties in French Polynesia (1 tahiti, 1 IC moorea, 1 IC Bora Bora Moana, 7 IC Bora Bora Thalasso). I think (hopeful) that for isolated scenarios of aspirational stays like this it may be worth it. The IC Bora Bora Thalasso gets you an OWB on award points. However, the other ones (tahiti, moorea and moana) are not OWB. My hope is that spire amb status will get upgrade to an OWB. If so, then it will have been worth it. We’ll see. Will report back in Jan 2016.
How did you get 7 nights? Availability is practically nonexistent.
Interesting.
So I booked the Le Moana (because there is zero Thalasso awards. None in months). And when they emailed I asked about AMB upgrade and they said no upgrade on awards. On FT other people had the same email and still got upgraded at checkin. We’ll see, but I’m pretty confident based on FT. I think it’s availability based.
And agreed. Great find with Thalasso.
But wait. How did you book in Jan? Don’t your free nights expire at the end of the year? From the Into The Nights? Or did it let you book for then? I was too scared to try… but I shoulda considered that.
Drew,
He did not say that they were ITN awards, I guess some or all arr regular point or credit card awards that permit redemption beyond 12/31/15.
Also, looking forward to your update concerning Spire status once we have a better handle on what it actually will deliver!
I booked with points (2 chase ihg sign ups, 2 ink plus sign ups, 2 csp sign ups plus some MS).
I originally was only able to secure *one* night when I started in Jan of 2015 booking for Jan of 2016. Since then checking multiple times per day, every day, every week, every month, I reached the point having my itinerary for bora bora thalasso complete.
The IHG Platinum status was helpful for me in Las Vegas (Staybridge Suite with strip view), Istanbul (top most floor with bosphorous sea view, 180 degress floor to ceiling window, daily fruit/maccaroons, access to Turkish Bath etc. – much better than the Raddisson Blu Bosphorous) and Phuket (Candlewood suite – one of the best experience since it was new). But I agree it can be a hit/miss sometimes…
I mean, it doesn’t advertise much, other than upgrades. So I keep my expectations low and I’m pleased when I get a suite. Gotten many suites in Asia actually, but I guess I never prioritize suites.
Drew,
Posts like this are why I love your site more than all the other travel rewards blogs and such out there. Instead of every other post being about the newest credit card deal and filled with 5 affiliate links, you actually give helpful info that I would normally have to research and dig for, and you write in a great and entertaining way. I just wanted to say thanks for posts like these, for your so incredibly awesome(!!!) maps of chain hotels, and breaking down the nitty-gritty detailed stuff like airline routing. Been following you for a few months now, and have loved every bit.
Great post/review. Just had the good fortune to enjoy an extended stay at the new HIExpress in Springdale, at the base of Zion National Park, via “reward nights.” (Place is a recent conversion of a high end Best Western — and that may account for a reasonable point break rate for such a stunner.) This place was the antithesis of “bland,” — superb setting, many surprises, a true joy. Though the place is ordinarily sold out this time of year, had the fortune to be upgraded (thanks to Plat status) to a Presidential suite, making a superb setting just divine. If you’ve not done Zion before, add it to your bucket list. 🙂
Crowne Plaza Bangkok Lumpini Park no longer gives lounge access or breakfast to Platinum members. You need to pay 600 Thai Baht++ for the lounge access.
Quick question about the Accelerate promo:
Can I earn points on 3 categories in just one stay?
ex: Stay Once Get 1000
Earn More, Faster (bonus point package)
Spend on IHG credit card
My guess is that these would have to be three separate bookings, but I figure you would know! Thanks for your hard work.
I will follow this site since I stumbled upon it. It seems civilized.
I have the IHG as well as Club Carlson and find they add to my ability to find vacancies especially during peak holiday travel times both here and abroad.