Transparency is my thing, right? Are we not known for that yet? Well we should be. Carrie displays every tiny spend, and does more readable monthly summaries at her Freakin Flyers blog. But in this post I wanted to try to dig back before July, when we started posting all our stats.
The finds for how many miles and points we spend, might be shocking to you.
I’ll show every flight we’ve taken and go over the prices, then show every single hotel we’ve stayed at in a while, then go over the exact costs in points and dollars.
The Price of 3 Years of Flights
Here are all of our flights in pictures:
Here are some flight related prices for both of us:
- Total number of miles spent on flights: 904,000 miles
- Total number of US dollars spent on flights: $4,276
- Total number of flights: 110
- Total amount of US dollars spent of fuel surcharges: $0.00
- All of our flights were booked using United miles, AA miles, Southwest points, or BA Avios.
This shocked me.
I mean, I’m doing a bit of guess work on the flights. I have not been keeping track of this stuff like I have been with hotels, until very recently. But still, it’s pretty close.
So where did all my miles go? I know for a fact we earned over 1.5 million in our first year.
The more I thought about it, the more I realized how much went to our friends. For example, I flew one friend out to China, roundtrip, in business class. It cost me 200,000 miles. Then I flew a friend, and sister-in-law to easter island, in business class.
The more I think about it, I realize how quickly it goes… and how my friends have flown premium cabin as much as we have.
-_-
Still, all that flying for so little miles. Look at our flights. Then think about how easy it is to earn miles. There is no excuse not to travel the world. :-p
What saves us on flights?
The reason we’ve seen so much with so little is stopovers and crazy routings. Like look at our Pacific Hopper post. We did Guam, New Zealand, the Cooke Islands and Japan for 40,000 miles each in Business Class. Sooo much flying, for so cheap.
Another example would be how we flew (under the old British Airways scheme) to Easter Island with stopovers in Santiago, and Lima for only 20,000 British Airways miles (avios)! Incredible. And other tricks like the Caribbean Hopper and so forth.
What kills us on flights?
Short direct flights that miles don’t cover. I mean, this kills us, especially lately… since I got scared away from the Indian train. In one month in India we spent $350 each on tiny flights. $700 total. Plus, like $300 to get there. $600 total. Our India experience alone ran us $1,300.
Discount airliners like Air Asia and RyanAir are amazing. And British Airways Avios, to get from places like Budapest to Berlin (for 4,500 Avios)… this is huge. But when there are no OneWorld routes for Avios and no discount airliners, we either kill ourselves on busses or kill our wallets and fly. And to be honest, lately my tolerance for the bus thing has gone down (and yet we still had long busses in India too).
(Nearly) Every Single Hotel Stay of Ours
I started keeping a spreadsheet (I have tons of those) of every hotel stay, here is our specific breakdown for hotels, then I’ll sum it up.
HOTEL | WHERE | Total Points Price | Total $ Price | # of nights |
Radisson Niagra | Niagara Falls, CA | |||
Radisson Blu | Shanghai | 18000 | 3 | |
Park Hyatt | Shanghai | cert | 1 | |
Bali Hyatt | Bali | 15000 | 3 | |
JW Marriott | Bangkok | giftcard | 2 | |
Renaissance | Bangkok | giftcard | 1 | |
Courtyard | Bangkok | giftcard | 1 | |
Mayfair | Bangkok | giftcard | 1 | |
Holiday Inn | Chiang Mai | $45 | 1 | |
Renaissance | Saigon | cert | 2 | |
InterContinental | Hong Kong | 40000 | 1 | |
Courtyard | Hong Kong | cert | 1 | |
Park Hyatt Tokyo | Tokyo | cert | 1 | |
InterContinental | Yokohama | giftcard | 1 | |
Marriott | Guam | cert | 1 | |
Hilton | Guam | $100 | 1 | |
Hyatt Regency | Saipan | $80 | 1 | |
Crowne Plaza | Auckland | idk | idk | |
InterContinental | Fiji | 40000 | 8 | |
Crowne Plaza | Queenstown | idk | idk | |
Hilton Kawarau | Queenstown | idk | idk | |
Holiday Inn Airport | Auckland | idk | idk | |
Radisson Blu | Sydney | 10000 | $100 | 1 |
Radisson Narita | Tokyo | ? | $50 | 1 |
Ritz Carlton Central Park | New York | 70000 | 1 | |
Grand Hyatt | Santiago | 20000 | 2 | |
DoubleTree | Philadelphia | $50 | 1 | |
Radisson Blu | Philadelphia | 50000 | 1 | |
Waldorf Astoria | New York | 50000 | 1 | |
Conrad | New York | 50000 | 1 | |
InterContinental | New York | 50000 | 1 | |
Crowne Plaza | New York | 35000 | 1 | |
Renaissance | Aruba | cert | 1 | |
Radisson | Panama City | 28000 | 1 | |
InterContinental | San Juan | BRG | 1 | |
Gran Melia | Puerto Rico | $100 | 1 | |
Radisson | San Juan | $100 | 1 | |
Fairfield Inn IAD | IAD | $60 | 1 | |
InterContinental | Dusseldorf | BRG | 1 | |
InterContinental | Athens | 20000 | 4 | |
DoubleTree | Bucharest | BRG | 0 | 1 |
InterContinental | Bucharest | 40000 | 8 | |
Courtyard | Budapest | $70 | 1 | |
Radisson Blu | Budapest | 9000 | 2 | |
InterContinental | Budapest | BRG | 1 | |
Leonardo Hotel | Berlin | mistake fare | $27 | 8 |
Park Inn | Berlin | 9000 | 2 | |
Park Hyatt | Hamburg | cert | 1 | |
Leonardo Hotel | Hamburg | mistake fare | $8 | 1 |
Radisson Blu | Salzburg | 84000 | 6 | |
Crowne Plaza | Salzburg | $184 | 1 | |
InterContinental | Berchtesgaten | 35000 | 1 | |
Hilton | Innsburg | $161 | 1 | |
Holiday Inn | Salburg | $149 | 1 | |
InterContinental | Vienna | BRG | 1 | |
Radisson Blu | Vienna | 50000 | 2 | |
Park Inn | Bratislava | 9000 | 2 | |
Radisson Blu | Budapest | 9000 | 2 | |
InterContinental | Kiev | 85000 | 17 | |
Crowne Plaza | Vilnius | 10000 | 2 | |
Crowne Plaza | Vilnius | $82 | ||
InterContinental | Warsaw | $300 | 3 | |
Plaza On The River | London | 100000 | 4 | |
Holiday Inn | Swindon | $200 | 2 | |
Hampton Inn | Corby | 5000 | 1 | |
Holiday Inn | Glasgow | 10000 | 1 | |
Holiday Inn | Edinburgh | 17500 | 2 | |
Renaissance | London Heathrow | cert | 1 | |
Holiday Inn | Paris | 40000 | 8 | |
InterContinental | Paris | 50000 | 1 | |
InterContinental | Paris | cert | 1 | |
InterContinental | Vienna | $300 | 2 | |
Crowne Plaza | Salzburg | $142 | ||
InterContinental | Berchtesgaten | 70000 | 2 | |
EurHotel | Vienna | $40 | ||
Candlewood Suites | Hot Springs, AR | 92 | 1 | |
StayBridge Suites | Hot Springs, AR | $228 | 2 | |
IC Sandton Towers | Johannesburg | 10000 | 2 | |
Crowne Plaza | Johannesburg | 40000 | 2 | |
Candlewood Suites | Dallas | 20000 | 2 | |
InterContinental | Guadallara | $100 | 1 | |
Sheraton | Puerto Vallarta | $108 | 6 | |
InterContinental | San Fran | $372 | 2 | |
Candlewood Suites | Times Square | $228 | 2 | |
Andaz Wall Street | New York | giftcard | 2 | |
? some place | Como | $50 | 1 | |
InterContinental | Davos | 50000 | 1 | |
Best Western | ? | idk | ||
?hotwire | Venice | idk | ||
Westin | Venice | 20000 | 1 | |
Hilton | Florence | $94 | 1 | |
Garden Inn | Florence | |||
Crowne Plaza | Rome | 90000 | 6 | |
Crowne Plaza | Milan | 35000 | 1 | |
Grand Hyatt | New York | giftcard | 2 | |
Grand Hyatt | Hong Kong | 25000 | 1 | |
Holiday Inn Express | Jakarta | $140 | 2 | |
InterContinental | Jakarta | $180 | 1 | |
Holiday Inn Express | Kuta, Bali | $168 | 4 | |
InterContinental | Bali | $200 | 2 | |
Hoky Homestay | $149 | 17 | ||
Hyatt Regency | Yogyakarta | 10000 | 2 | |
Holiday Inn | Singapore | 20000 | 1 | |
InterContinental | Mumbai, India | 25000 | 5 | |
Holiday Inn | Mumbai, India | 15000 | 1 | |
? some place | Udaipur, India | $26 | 1 | |
Park Plaza | Jodhpur, India | $84 | 2 | |
Holiday Inn | Jaipur, India | 20000 | 1 | |
Marriott | Jaipur, India | cert | 1 | |
ITC | Jaipur, India | 3000 | ||
Park Inn | Jaipur, India | 9000 | 2 | |
ITC | Agra, India | 8000 | 2 | |
Country Inn & Suites | Katra, India | 9000 | 2 | |
Country Inn & Suites | Amritsar, India | 27000 | 5 | |
Radisson | Varanassi, India | 15000 | 2 | |
Park Inn | Kolkata, India | 5000 | $55 | 1 |
Hyatt Regency | Kolkata, India | 8000 | 1 | |
Grand Hyatt | Kuala Lumpur | cert | 1 | |
DoubleTree | Kuala Lumpur | 2000 | $41 | 1 |
Holiday Inn | Phuket Mai Khao | 45000 | 3 |
Here are some facts:
- Total number of nights = 237
- Total number of points spent = 1,639,500
- Total number of US dollars spent = $4,663
- Average hotel star rating = 4.19
- Number of hotels visited = 120
- Number of hotels free = 81
- Number of hotels with breakfast included = 32
- Number of hotels with lounge access = 31
And guess how many points we earned this year via credit cards? A total of 173,000 hotel points were earned via credit cards. That’s it. If I were to break it down, it would be: 80,000 IHG; 33,000 Hyatt (from Chase), and 60,000 Club Carlson points. Before that 2 nights with the Marriott card and 4 nights from the Hyatt card.
What do these numbers mean?
If you take the total dollars spent ($4663) and divide it by the total number of nights spent in these luxury hotels (237), you would get $19.67.
$19.67 is our average price for a 4.2 star hotel.
That is hard to beat. And remember we’ve earned most of our points via paid stays, not via credit cards. Just by maximizing promotions from paid stays, we’ve earned over a million points.
Yes, we’ve blown 1,639,500 hotel points. But that statistic is irrelevant, what matters is how the total costs breakdown.
What matters is this…
Out of 120 hotels, 81 were free. That means 2/3 are free nights. So the question is when to use points vs paid nights. And it’s a tough thing to calculate the more you travel.
How many nights do you need – how many nights could you get with the points you have = how many nights you still need to cover.
–> So, of those nights you still need to cover, where in your travels should you pay for them?
And my over-simplified answer to that is this priority list:
- If there is a great redemption where you are traveling, do that.
- If there is a great promotion and cheap hotels do that.
- If there is a decent promotion and decently priced hotels, do that.
- If there are no cheap hotels, make the best use of your points as you can.
Now these priorities aren’t necessary for every stay, just for the number of stays you still need to cover. Maybe #2 should be; if you have enough points to last your travel, keep using points. Or maybe #3.
What’s left out?
Anything I can’t remember, which is mostly before I started keeping track. So a lot of little tiny hotels may be left out. We’ve stayed in hotels cheaper than cheap. We shared a twin bed in Thailand once for a hotel under $5 a night. I can’t remember the exact price and for sure can’t remember the name. So my average price per night would probably go down if we could remember further back, and the average “star” rating would go down.
Still these are the more recent and actual numbers. This could be done by anyone for this price!
Part 3, Card History
A lot of this is based on memory, but I bet I can come close to every card we have ever had.
Drew: Chase Freedom, British Airways, Chase Sapphire Preferred, United, Amex Plat, Amex Gold, AA Visa, US Airways card, IHG, Marriott (idk why), AA Business, AA Executive.
Carrie: British Airways, Chase Sapphire Preferred, United, Amex Gold, AA Visa, AA MC, Ink Bold, US Airways, Hyatt, IHG, Hilton Signature, SPG, Lufthansa.
Now this was more off the top of my head, since I lost that spreadsheet. But it’s probably pretty darn close to most all cards we’ve had.
In 2011 there were a number of cards that were 100,000 miles, like the British Airways (as usual), and Amex Plat. A number that gave 75,000, like the Amex Gold, and AA cards. Even United and Chase Sapphire Preferred had some big matched bonuses in the past.
And honestly, we slowed down a lot in the last two years. Just made sure we had enough and a little more. But lately, I’ve been tired of being close to miles broke (or any kind of broke) and will probably get back on the horse and get some new cards.
Annual fee’s we’ve paid: $95 Chase Sapphire Preferred, $69 Southwest, $99 Southwest premier, $89 Hyatt x2 years (done with that), $89 US Airways x 2 (dumb), $79 Lufthansa (first year), $85 Marriott, $50 Amex Plat ($450 – $400 in reimbursements (first year)), $250 AA Executive (first year)
$1,083 in fees.
I’m done with that crap. Cards actually worth keeping = none. You learn as you go though and I get pretty lucky with downgrades and what not.
Conclusion
Yes, we’ve spent about $8,939 on flights and hotels + $1,083. But we live in hotels and on the road. I don’t want anyone to think that they must muster up $10,000 to do a vacation. You could honestly recreate the free things we do for a 2 week vacation or even 2 month vacation and not spend a dime. A single dime, I believe that.
But for us $10,000 is cheaper than rent and a car and what not. Plus it’s way more fun.
So you could say that $10,000 gets you 271 days in 4+ star hotels and 110 flights to over 40 countries, in a short period of time. But if you plan to spread that travel out, it could be way cheaper.
Now we spend way more money on random things… I guess like everyone. And we spend waaay too much money on food. That being said, there is always a cheap option. Always.
Like at the InterContinental Fiji, down the road a couple of miles was a super cheap and good Indian place. Like a few bucks for both of us to eat. And the restaurant at the hotel was super expensive. We got a taxi every now and then and also got some food for the room in Europe since there are bakeries that have cheap sandwiches, and there’s always a home option… but we just don’t find it worth it, I guess.
Also, I didn’t talk it about it for a while, but our first year of marriage, we were super super broke. And yet, still traveled. We did things most people would not. Like go to the airport to spend the night when we were out of points in Tokyo. I kid you not. We’re now more likely to just spend the money. Those weren’t productive or fun days in Tokyo.
All that to say… You can do this at whatever price you want. We’ve hitchhiked and slept on benches and beaches. Or for shorter trips you could blow all your points and stay at the nicest hotels. Or for a little more money, you can live in 4 star hotels. Whatever price you want, I guarantee it’s possible.
This is one of the most inspirational things I’ve ever read… you should write down all your thoughts about all the places you’ve been into one amazing travelogue!
Awesome. Thanks Jon.
Geez, that would be a lot of writing. I try to say when a place is really awesome. I guess, it’s more about the overall experience of travel though.
Bravo!!!!!!
thanks 🙂
I’ve commented a few times. Absolutely love reading your posts compared to the other popular blogs that I feel like I’m getting pitched a credit card in every post.
Just wanted to let you know it’s appreciated.
Indeed. That’s why I use links from either this site or Frequent Miler’s site to sign up for CC. I find those two most informative so they should get my referral $$.
Thanks Joe and Rob very much for the kind words. I decided a while ago that I wasn’t going to just pump out deals even though… it kind of seems to do better. So it’s great to have positive feedback for the slower-harder-to-produce content.
Thanks for real
^^ What he said.
Also, extend that same above thank you, to you. 😀
Thanks Erik.
Amazing!
Glad you like it P.L.
Loved your analysis. It’s very inspiring.
Glad to hear it! That’s the idea… in hindsight. :-p
Love the the rundown of costs of full-time travel. I would be interested in how you generate income while traveling full-time. I’ve gathered lots of knowledge and inspiration from Travel is free and Freakin Flyers.
Slowly. lol
Yea, I’ve thought about posting about blogging, writing, the travel industry stuff, but wasn’t sure how’d people take. Wonder if that would be well accepted on travelisfree.
But if you have any specific questions let me know.
Hope other first class travel pimpers out there READ this, UNDERSTAND this and NOT try to constantly push first class and business class seats, 5 star hotel stays for credit card referrals constantly to their friends and loyal readers and continue to drug them constantly to live in fool’s paradise. Hah, i am dreaming – it is not going to happen at all. Anyway, You are brave enough to show to your readers that there is another side to life as well. Kudos to you.
Thanks Kumar for your support and continued reading here!
I’ve spent the night in top-notch hotels, airports, train stations and parks. Maybe not always the most fun situations, but as you know the urge to travel can be a strong one ;-). I’ve found that stepping out of your comfort zone and doing what you have to do for the sake of traveling often creates some of the best memories!
I love quality accommodations, but I’m willing to tolerate quite a lot to see and do new things. Everyone has their own set of priorities, and for some first-class seating and 5* hotels are must-haves. Personally, I’d rather forgo those luxuries than miss out on the adventure!
Luckily, Travel is Free offers plenty of ways for readers to be able to experience travel while avoiding the alternative sleeping arrangements that it sounds like both you and I have suffered through in the past.
Sometimes continue to suffer through. Heck, airplanes are worse than sleeping in airports, imo.
I agree, I’d rather forgo a nicer bed than seeing what a place is really like.
But as you say the “urge to travel can be a strong one.” As tough as it can be, I rather prefer our life of needing to innovate and do crazy things just to continue to travel. Heck, I love it.
I also really admire your transparency and approach to travel, showing that it’s not necessary to always redeem for 1st class and 5 star hotels. However, I don’t travel full time and make enough now that I can afford to splurge on vacations. Traveling with kids also changes things regarding stopovers and always moving from place to place. Miles and points can only get you so far, so it’s important to travel where you want to go and not only chase the deals for the sake of saving money (or wasting time sleeping at the airport in Tokyo when you could have slept in a manga cafe instead…)
Right, and I think that’s a big difference between a full time traveler and not. Like, if I chase a mistake fare and I’m like, “okay, this hotel is not an ideal location”. Oh well, I’ll just work 16 hour days and in a week be someplace else. But if you spend all of your vacation days to end up in a spot you don’t enjoy. Like… that sucks. More than a waste.
Also, I just googled “manga cafe”, so awesome, lol.
Anyways, thanks so much for reading and commenting, Nick!
Told my gf today that you’re my hero hahaha
Wow, Awesome. I have two fans now. Which is great because I think my mom was starting to feel alone in the fan club. 😉
What I find fascinating is some of the places you HAVEN’T been to
Looking at your map, it appears you didn’t ever fly to/from LAX, PEK or DXB
That you have managed to not fly to 3 of the 7 largest airports in the world on any of your 110 flights is remarkable in it of itself
In fact, you have incredible Asia Pac coverage, without ever transiting LAX, SEA or YVR! Forget the island hopper – you need a US West Coast hopper 🙂
Fantastic post, but can’t agree with this: “Cards actually worth keeping = none”
The $49 Chase IHG card is absolutely worth keeping, if only for the free annual night. And actually, it is possible to get up to four free nights, albeit biannually, if you and the partner time your applications right.
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Rob, interesting points.
Okay but I forgot to mention. ALL the flights above are since getting married in 2011. Like I’ve been to LA, and Seattle, and I’ve been to many of the National Parks out there: Rocky Mount, Yellowstone, Glacier, zion, Bryce, Arches, Yosemite, etc… But not since getting married.
But one big gap is the middle east all together. I’ve never seen Petra, Istanbul, Dubai, any of it. And honestly, other things have just trumped in terms of curiosity. I’m still not that interested in Dubai (to be honest).
But yea, we’re both east coasters, so all of our flights are through NYC, DC or Chicago, it seems.
Im not really sure where best to post this…I was wondering what are you thoughts on going from Argentina to Europe? There are almost no articles out there in the community about getting to Europe from SA. We live here in BA and are going to Spain for our friends’ wedding in Oct. So far it looks like United at 95k rt is the best option. What do you think? Maybe it would be a good idea for a future article? 🙂
Thanks!